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04-03-2012, 02:50 PM
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Afghanistan
What’s going now in Afghanistan is not for the first time. 27 years ago Russian army entered Afghanistan to help the Afghani president protect his power against the Islamic forces terrorizing the country. Russian army stayed there 9 years and 1 months. It was opposed by troops lead by Usama Bin Laden who was that time officially sponsored by USA, in order to prevent a victory of USSR there and not allowing Soviet Union to establish there another regime supported by communists. During these 9 years more than 14,000 Russian soldiers were killed, half thousand people were captured by the opposing Afghani forces. Practically all of them were forced to turn into Islam. And more than 50,000 Russian soldiers were wounded there and 10,000 of them continued their life as disabled as a result of the war. But what can be most interesting is that just a few months after the Soviet troops left Afghanistan the radical Islamic movement took over the country again and was just becoming stronger and stronger until the USA troops came into a play. Now, when USA military presence is not high there it has been heard that only center of the country is being controlled by “democratically chosen president”, all the distant regions are again under the rule of radical Islamists. So probably there is no way on turning this country to Western system of good and bad. On these photos you can see Russian soldiers together with Afghani ones, and some scenes from everyday life in 1983. Photos are from Alexandr Prokopchuk, they were made by his father Nikolai who was shot dead in Januar, 1984 in Afghanistan, half year later after he made these photos.  ·  ·  ·  ·  ·  ·  ·  · |
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04-03-2012, 03:36 PM
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Re: Afghanistan
I do believe the Taliban are the result of a general uprising against the very people the USA/UK enabled into power when the Russians left. They had become incredibly barbaric and kicked off numerous atrocities and outrages in the name of Islam. Talib = Student, Taliban = Students. They were 'students' in a broad sense, of a different type of Islam, which started out as a worthy cause, but became more violent and vicious as time went by. And now they are as bad as the very people they defeated. The country is a uncivilised, uneducated, vicious, infighting, inbred shit hole, always has been. Nobody has any use for it (it has nothing, no wealth, no oil, no minerals) except to run an oil pipeline through. |
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04-14-2012, 04:45 PM
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Re: Afghanistan
now the russians are laffing at us for falling into the hell hole that they smartly left. you cant change afghanistan... ever.
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04-14-2012, 07:05 PM
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Re: Afghanistan
The Russians are considering sending troops in if the US pulls out early. Thats right from Putins mouth. The US actions in the region are far from a joke to them. They even let the USAF use Russian air bases for supply hubs.
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04-14-2012, 07:08 PM
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Re: Afghanistan
You are right in the first part! Afghanistan does have huge lithium deposits though. If I recall correctly, it's in the hundreds of billions of dollars. China has expressed interest in mining it and maybe using PLA troops for security.
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04-14-2012, 08:27 PM
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Re: Afghanistan
In both cases, the war was cheap compared to the others both participated in. The US burned money in Iraq, while the USSR ran dry in the arms and space sectors. Afghanistan was just the straw that broke the camels back.
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04-16-2012, 12:39 AM
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Re: Afghanistan
My husband is there right now and the last Afghan guy he spoke to didn't realize mankind had landed on the moon. The word he uses the most to describe them is "savages".
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