Ukraine Crisis, Arty Barrage Mariupol Downtown Middle of the Day..surreal

[Mr Poo]

Originally Posted by Kelseecat65

The whole world is falling apart and Obama is being interviewed by "you tube stars".

Originally Posted by niknik

Obama
This is what happens when you elect a community organizer and activist. He is beneath the office.

It's so pathetic Obama always the scapegoat for the brainwashed..

Yes it's Obama's fault Putin invaded. Because he controls everything that happens in the world. Obama is god?

[rob666]

Originally Posted by niknik

Obama
This is what happens when you elect a community organizer and activist. He is beneath the office.

Your unemployment rate is around 5%?
Inflation is very low.
Growth is 5%.
Gas is how cheap?
When America gets done with Obama, send him up here........ We could use him.

Stick to being a pretend soldier and leave the political threads for the grown ups.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by Mr Poo

How could you say it's a civil war when the conflict is between two countries. The "Separatists" have already been proven to be with the Russian military. This is an invasion of another country, and the most similar strategically to Hitler since WWII other than when Saddam invaded Kuwait.

Rob you honestly think some, lets call them rebels from eastern Ukraine have been able to battle and make gains on the Ukrainian army that has tanks, fighter jets and artillery? Be realistic..

It's not between 2 countries...... If Russia wanted to it could take all of Ukraine in a day.

The Ukrainian army...... You mean the one with neo nazi battalions, mercenaries etc etc? Um, yeah.

[Mr Poo]

Originally Posted by rob666

It's not between 2 countries...... If Russia wanted to it could take all of Ukraine in a day.

The Ukrainian army...... You mean the one with neo nazi battalions, mercenaries etc etc? Um, yeah.

Just like every country has mercenaries.. I've said that about Russia before Rob. The reason they don't is because it makes it an obvious territory grab. Putin is trying to keep it under the radar if he can, although he already fucked himself over.

[Mr Poo]

Originally Posted by rob666

Your unemployment rate is around 5%?
Inflation is very low.
Growth is 5%.
Gas is how cheap?
When America gets done with Obama, send him up here........ We could use him.

Stick to being a pretend soldier and leave the political threads for the grown ups.

People always need a scapegoat when they are disconnected from reality. In the history books Obama will be remembered for reversing the worst depression since the great depression. All due to economic savvy, but everything is big bad Obama's fault.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by Mr Poo

People always need a scapegoat when they are disconnected from reality. In the history books Obama will be remembered for reversing the worst depression since the great depression. All due to economic savvy, but everything is big bad Obama's fault.

Things were bad when he took office...... Scary, scary bad......... Everything is pretty much 180 from that, and he still gets shit on

No major terror attacks, cheap gas, huge job creation....... He's made some mistakes, but all in all the numbers he's put up are huge.

He's leaving a much better situation than he inherited.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by Mr Poo

Just like every country has mercenaries.. I've said that about Russia before Rob. The reason they don't is because it makes it an obvious territory grab. Putin is trying to keep it under the radar if he can, although he already fucked himself over.

There's also a treaty that was negotiated for Ukraine's independence that allowed thousands of Russian troops in Ukraine.
No doubt there were stipulations to that to prevent then from fighting Ukraine, but Russia does have that right.

It's an extremely complicated situation.

[Zambini]

All this cheap oil is not good for many countries that are on the edge of losing control and are currently governed by dictators, religious fundamentalists or demagogues.

Once the food and services stop due to no hard cash because of the oil prices, watch out.

Venezuela : needs oil at $200 a barrel to balance its budget, it's inflation rate is currently 50%

Iran: needs $ 100/ barrel to balance the budget

Nigeria: 75 % of its income is from oil, it needs prices at twice they are now to be able to function even as dysfunctionaly as they normally do.

Russia: Its oil and other energy exports total approximately $300 billion annually and 68% of Russia's foreign currency earnings come from the oil-export business, and around 50% of its annual budget is underwritten by the industry.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by Zambini

All this cheap oil is not good for many countries that are on the edge of losing control and are currently governed by dictators, religious fundamentalists or demagogues.

Once the food and services stop due to no hard cash because of the oil prices, watch out.

Venezuela : needs oil at $200 a barrel to balance its budget, it's inflation rate is currently 50%

Iran: needs $ 100/ barrel to balance the budget

Nigeria: 75 % of its income is from oil, it needs prices at twice they are now to be able to function even as dysfunctionaly as they normally do.

Russia: Its oil and other energy exports total approximately $300 billion annually and 68% of Russia's foreign currency earnings come from the oil-export business, and around 50% of its annual budget is underwritten by the industry.

Well said. This could push a lot of places to the brink.

We are taking a huge hit up here too, its costing our Government billions in lost royalties and investments are going way, way down...... Our Government decided to make us a resource based economy, which is great when the resource is worth something.

[GregK]