Ukraine Crisis, Arty Barrage Mariupol Downtown Middle of the Day..surreal

[ralucagymnast]

USA/NATO has been distracted by ISIS/Middle East stuff, while Europe is still vulnerable. Putin knows this, and he knows while the cats away, the mice can play. Looks like the cat is coming back though.

[Kelseecat65]

Originally Posted by ralucagymnast

USA/NATO has been distracted by ISIS/Middle East stuff, while Europe is still vulnerable. Putin knows this, and he knows while the cats away, the mice can play. Looks like the cat is coming back though.

The whole world is falling apart and Obama is being interviewed by "you tube stars".

[rob666]

Not much difference between Russian and Ukraine winters......

[rob666]

Originally Posted by ralucagymnast

So what can we do about it? Any confrontation with Russia would surely escalate to nuclear war. It is awful; he has the whole world held to ransom: remember his comments a few months ago in that youth summit meeting; ""its best not to mess with Russia.......we are a nuclear power".

Nothing.

It's a civil war on the other side of the world.

I'm pretty sure if Mexico was involved in a civil war, with neo nazi elements supporting one side, America would intervene to protect it's own interests.
It has no problem intervening on the other side of the world to protect it's own interests.

But when Russia does the same? Comparisons to hitler, and pre world war 2 soon follow.

Massive hypocrisy and double standard.

[b0g]

Since the oil and gas rich Crimea is Russian now, where do you think Uk. gets it oil?
Same like IS is exploiting the oil rigs and refineries for money in their captures.
But have you seen vids of the actual situation in e.g. Rakha?

[bob351]

Coupled with the fact it that they are in the UKRAINE and not invading russia so they would both be well equipped to fight this in winter time in either country. Also it looks very very mild where that video was taken, light jacket and hats, no extreme temperatures going on.

[niknik]

I don't think ww3 will start over Ukraine. Russia will just be pushed further into isolation.
What will possibly start ww3 is the fact a desperate Russia will sell their most advanced weapons systems to our enemies.
Quite possibly could become Russias 2nd biggest export next to natural resources. And these receiving nations like Iran could start ww3.
Really when you break it all down as far as capabilities. Russia couldn't defeat America, Russia has no superiority in any area.
Like North Korea, Russia likes to put on a big show when it comes to military might. Like their new submarines they enjoy showing off. American submarine detection aircraft makes them practically useless against America.

[Mr Poo]

Originally Posted by rob666

Nothing.

It's a civil war on the other side of the world.

I'm pretty sure if Mexico was involved in a civil war, with neo nazi elements supporting one side, America would intervene to protect it's own interests.
It has no problem intervening on the other side of the world to protect it's own interests.

But when Russia does the same? Comparisons to hitler, and pre world war 2 soon follow.

Massive hypocrisy and double standard.

How could you say it's a civil war when the conflict is between two countries. The "Separatists" have already been proven to be with the Russian military. This is an invasion of another country, and the most similar strategically to Hitler since WWII other than when Saddam invaded Kuwait.

Rob you honestly think some, lets call them rebels from eastern Ukraine have been able to battle and make gains on the Ukrainian army that has tanks, fighter jets and artillery? Be realistic..

[rob666]

Originally Posted by niknik

I don't think ww3 will start over Ukraine. Russia will just be pushed further into isolation.
What will possibly start ww3 is the fact a desperate Russia will sell their most advanced weapons systems to our enemies.
Quite possibly could become Russias 2nd biggest export next to natural resources. And these receiving nations like Iran could start ww3.
Really when you break it all down as far as capabilities. Russia couldn't defeat America, Russia has no superiority in any area.
Like North Korea, Russia likes to put on a big show when it comes to military might. Like their new submarines they enjoy showing off. American submarine detection aircraft makes them practically useless against America.

What do you suppose Russia does with people that fake military service? I'd bet you'd catch a few years in Siberia for that.

[niknik]

Originally Posted by Kelseecat65

The whole world is falling apart and Obama is being interviewed by "you tube stars".

Obama
This is what happens when you elect a community organizer and activist. He is beneath the office.