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04-16-2019, 02:13 AM
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This was some extremely hurtful news. Hopefully artwork is safe. The building can always be replaced, but the paintings are unique.
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04-16-2019, 09:26 AM
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Re: Notre Dame Fire
A building burning down is comparable to 9/11?
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04-16-2019, 09:50 AM
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Not all. I read that there was human chain moving things out yesterday. Hopefully they got at least most of the rest out of there.  |
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04-16-2019, 09:52 AM
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there is a tendency to let pigeon poo pile up under the roof and yes it is fuel to a fire |
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04-16-2019, 11:51 AM
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In a symbolic way, this is a deeply traumatizing event for French people, this Cathedral stood since the 1300's years (even more since the construction was very long) and did withstand lot of wars and armed conflict unharmed, lot of significant events of France -long- history took place in here, and Notre-Dame enclosed relics of this past history (that were apparently saved unharmed by the firemens!)... Seeing this burning down (yesterday night some were even speculating that the whole Cathedral could collapse entirely during the night) is like seeing a part of our history and one of the symbol of what make France being what it is (or was...) burning down as well (especially given the current unoptimistic situation in our country)... ((About the media dubbing this a "French 9/11"... i'd remember some of them already called Charlie's hebdo shootout, then the November 2015 Paris Attacks "French 9/11" days after these events occured, i think this is more of a "sensationalizing" way of create a symbol to use in-media and for politics purposes...)) |
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04-16-2019, 06:54 PM
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'Revenge'? One group comes to mind that has been doing this type of stuff for 1,400 years. Chistchurch doesn't begin to balance the books for the Nice massacre by itself. Let alone the Bataclan massacre. And there is plenty more aside from the two aforementioned attacks. No sense in trying to spin the true victimizers into fake 'victims'. |
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04-16-2019, 11:01 PM
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I understand that the largest problem will be finding trees that are big enough to use in the rebuilding. This building was started in the 1100's, and at that time, they were cutting down oak trees that were 6 feet in diameter, and 100 feet high, that were probably 150 years old. There are no longer any trees of that size left in Europe It may be hard to find them in the U.S. or in Canada, as well. The building was built with stone, but there was a LOT of timber bracing and timber supports that tied things together. That is why it burned so well. Also, someone told me today that they had coated all the early wood with a wax coating to keep out moisture and insects. That is how it lasted 800 years. Also, I understand they were heating molten lead to use in the roof repairs, which I guess were sheets of copper, soldered with lead. They mentioned something like 30 tons of lead was used in the roof alone. It may be that they spilled a bucket of molten lead. There is no way you can contain that when it spills. It may have run through the gaps in the stones, and ignited heavy beams that were behind the stonework, with no access to extinguish the fires. President Macron of France said they will rebuild it in 5 years, but I think it will take more like 30 years before it is done. On top of the wood problems, where are they going to find the stone-cutters to do the repairs? They could use 500 of them, and there are probably only 50-60 left in the entire world. (I'm not talking guys who can engrave tombstones. I'm talking guys who have the skill to carve an entire statue from marble.) When they were building the U.S. National Cathedral in Washington, DC, they had 8-10 stone-cutters working on it through most of the last century. They were down to about 5 when they made a documentary film about them. And at the end, there was only one guy left working, I think his name was Palumbo. He eventually died of cancer, and since then they have contracted the stonework out. It STILL is not complete, and that place is only about 1/10th the size of Notre Dame Cathedral. This is a truly monumental disaster in the world's history. |
