Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman Arrested

[JustifiableHomicide]

Originally Posted by Johnny Alias

Xfactor, go back and read your history. If there's one thing that is certain about Al Capone, it's that he ended up at Alcatraz where he was cut off from communicating with his former colleagues, and that this destroyed any influence he once had in the criminal underworld.

It's very well known that he was cut off from giving orders, lost all his power, and died in poverty. Imprisoning him effectively destroyed the immense power he had over Chicago crime. You bringing up his story is in fact the best possible example in all of history where imprisoning a criminal leader can destroy his empire.



You retarded piece of shit, the numbers are based on many different studies all saying the same thing. But you're so ignorant, I give you the facts and you still won't believe them.

3 times more people are in jails today because law enforcement has become more efficient at locking up these idiots and losers. I'd rather pay billions of dollars and keep these morons locked up rather than have them on the street pushing drugs and causing violent crime.

Crime and violence is way down. Drug use is way down. Oh wait - you're claiming the drug users are all just lying. Well are all the criminal statisticians in all the major US cities lying too? Fucking idiot. No wonder so little ever gets done in the US, it's full of retards like you.

Oh well, judging from your pro-drug stance I'm sure it's only a matter of time before you end up in jail along with the rest of your friends.

[Johnny Alias]

Originally Posted by JustifiableHomicide

Oh boy another pothead trying to act smart

First of all, your charts only give a small glimpse of the overall drug problem, since they only go back to the late 1990s. Another one of your charts only looks at young people between eighth grade and the age of 28, and only within a ten year period. In each and every one of your charts, you have failed to look at the entire drop in drug use in the US, going back to the early 1970s when drug use first started to see a rise:

http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...1&d=1393379923

As you can clearly see (unless you're high on weed) is that drug use has gone dramatically down since it's peak in the 1970s. Which is what I have said all along.

So next time you want to argue, try not so smoke weed and you won't come off as such a clown. As for your weed statistic that no one has died off weed, that has nothing to do with anything lol

Lay of the weed pals maybe then you can (a) figure out what the argument is and (b) try to find a logical rebuttal to that argument.

[JustifiableHomicide]

Originally Posted by Johnny Alias

Oh boy another pothead trying to act smart

First of all, your charts only give a small glimpse of the overall drug problem, since they only go back to the late 1990s. Another one of your charts only looks at young people between eighth grade and the age of 28, and only within a ten year period. In each and every one of your charts, you have failed to look at the entire drop in drug use in the US, going back to the early 1970s when drug use first started to see a rise:

http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...1&d=1393379923

As you can clearly see (unless you're high on weed) is that drug use has gone dramatically down since it's peak in the 1970s. Which is what I have said all along.

So next time you want to argue, try not so smoke weed and you won't come off as such a clown. As for your weed statistic that no one has died off weed, that has nothing to do with anything lol

Lay of the weed pals maybe then you can (a) figure out what the argument is and (b) try to find a logical rebuttal to that argument.

First of all, posting graphs and memes is not arguing. If you think that your density is already fully apparent. You are asking me if I know what a logical argument and rebuttal is, when you think a graph is an argument?

Secondly, they didn't start keeping those statistics until the 70's. That makes your graphs and statistics also obsolete by not showing the entire picture. You must be drunk.

1898 - Heroin is introduced. First thought to be non-addicting, but founded to be so addicting that health professionals, legislatures and the public call for its ban or control.

1899 - Aspirin introduced into medical practice due to its effectiveness, Bayer Company of Germany originally promotes it to doctors. This is the first safe and effective medicine that is not addictive.

1900 - Opium, morphine, heroin and cocaine in wide use in over-the-counter medicines made by a pharmacist or a manufacturer (known as patent medicines).

1903 - Barbiturates introduced as hypnotic (sedative), soon replace the more toxic bromides that are commonly used for headaches and stress. Bromides are in popular products like Bromoseltzer. People who become addicted to bromides might consume 3 to 5 glasses a day or more. Bromides are discontinued in products soon after World War II.

1933 - Introduction of amphetamines into the United States. The military on both sides of WW II uses amphetamines. It is given on both sides to assist soldiers in staying awake during days of combat. Amphetamine use by civilians does not increase until after the war.

After WW II there was an amazing development of new medicines: tranquilizers, new amphetamines and barbiturates, new opioids (synthesized opium products). Weight loss products are sold containing amphetamines and ephedrine. National marketing of these medicines increase their use. This post-war era brings with it affluence, social change and mass use of medicines and drugs. Many of the stimulant, tranquilizer and sedative medicines are misused. Amphetamines and barbiturates are call “mother’s little helpers” as many women develop a habit for the stimulation and sedative effects of these medicines. The predecessors to the modern Drug Enforcement Administration and other government and private organizations begin setting up education programs to stem the tide of abuse and addiction.

1962 – White House Conference on Narcotic and Drug Abuse was a response to increase narcotic medicine and drug abuse. The conference eventually leads to the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970.

1963 – President’s Advisory Commission on Narcotic and Drug Abuse produces the 1965 Federal Drug Abuse Control Amendments. The new rules require registration of manufactures, wholesalers, and other establishments. These entities, plus pharmacists and physicians are required to increase record keeping of controlled substances. Marijuana is placed on the same level as narcotics.

1970 – Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act is a United States federal law that, with subsequent modifications, requires the pharmaceutical industry to maintain physical security and strict record keeping for certain types of medicines. Controlled substances are divided into five schedules (or classes) on the basis of their potential for abuse, accepted medical use, and accepted safety under medical supervision. The medicine bottles have a C with the schedule number on the side and can be seen on the medicine containers exhibited above.

[rob666]

Originally Posted by Johnny Alias

Xfactor, go back and read your history. If there's one thing that is certain about Al Capone, it's that he ended up at Alcatraz where he was cut off from communicating with his former colleagues, and that this destroyed any influence he once had in the criminal underworld.

It's very well known that he was cut off from giving orders, lost all his power, and died in poverty. Imprisoning him effectively destroyed the immense power he had over Chicago crime. You bringing up his story is in fact the best possible example in all of history where imprisoning a criminal leader can destroy his empire.



You retarded piece of shit, the numbers are based on many different studies all saying the same thing. But you're so ignorant, I give you the facts and you still won't believe them.

3 times more people are in jails today because law enforcement has become more efficient at locking up these idiots and losers. I'd rather pay billions of dollars and keep these morons locked up rather than have them on the street pushing drugs and causing violent crime.

Crime and violence is way down. Drug use is way down. Oh wait - you're claiming the drug users are all just lying. Well are all the criminal statisticians in all the major US cities lying too? Fucking idiot. No wonder so little ever gets done in the US, it's full of retards like you.

Oh well, judging from your pro-drug stance I'm sure it's only a matter of time before you end up in jail along with the rest of your friends.

Get the fuck outta here

So the prison population tripling since the introduction of extreme drug laws has to do with more efficient policing, and not the harsh sentencing

And your perfectly ok with having the worlds largest prison population, both per capita and overall knowing full well that over half of that is drug related

It's idiots like you that should just stop for a minute, and look at where prohibition had taken us and ask yourself where and when it has EVER worked. It dint work in Capone's day, and it doesn't work today either ( surprise surprise).

Yeah, just keep,on locking up those evil marijuana users and growers, the planet is so much safer because of it

[Johnny Alias]

Originally Posted by JustifiableHomicide

First of all, posting graphs and memes is not arguing. If you think that your density is already fully apparent. You are asking me if I know what a logical argument and rebuttal is, when you think a graph is an argument?

Secondly, they didn't start keeping those statistics until the 70's. That makes your graphs and statistics also obsolete by not showing the entire picture. You must be drunk.

1898 - Heroin is introduced. First thought to be non-addicting, but founded to be so addicting that health professionals, legislatures and the public call for its ban or control.

1899 - Aspirin introduced into medical practice due to its effectiveness, Bayer Company of Germany originally promotes it to doctors. This is the first safe and effective medicine that is not addictive.

1900 - Opium, morphine, heroin and cocaine in wide use in over-the-counter medicines made by a pharmacist or a manufacturer (known as patent medicines).

1903 - Barbiturates introduced as hypnotic (sedative), soon replace the more toxic bromides that are commonly used for headaches and stress. Bromides are in popular products like Bromoseltzer. People who become addicted to bromides might consume 3 to 5 glasses a day or more. Bromides are discontinued in products soon after World War II.

1933 - Introduction of amphetamines into the United States. The military on both sides of WW II uses amphetamines. It is given on both sides to assist soldiers in staying awake during days of combat. Amphetamine use by civilians does not increase until after the war.

After WW II there was an amazing development of new medicines: tranquilizers, new amphetamines and barbiturates, new opioids (synthesized opium products). Weight loss products are sold containing amphetamines and ephedrine. National marketing of these medicines increase their use. This post-war era brings with it affluence, social change and mass use of medicines and drugs. Many of the stimulant, tranquilizer and sedative medicines are misused. Amphetamines and barbiturates are call “mother’s little helpers” as many women develop a habit for the stimulation and sedative effects of these medicines. The predecessors to the modern Drug Enforcement Administration and other government and private organizations begin setting up education programs to stem the tide of abuse and addiction.

1962 – White House Conference on Narcotic and Drug Abuse was a response to increase narcotic medicine and drug abuse. The conference eventually leads to the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970.

1963 – President’s Advisory Commission on Narcotic and Drug Abuse produces the 1965 Federal Drug Abuse Control Amendments. The new rules require registration of manufactures, wholesalers, and other establishments. These entities, plus pharmacists and physicians are required to increase record keeping of controlled substances. Marijuana is placed on the same level as narcotics.

1970 – Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act is a United States federal law that, with subsequent modifications, requires the pharmaceutical industry to maintain physical security and strict record keeping for certain types of medicines. Controlled substances are divided into five schedules (or classes) on the basis of their potential for abuse, accepted medical use, and accepted safety under medical supervision. The medicine bottles have a C with the schedule number on the side and can be seen on the medicine containers exhibited above.

Let's look at the definition of argument, according to the Oxford dictionary:

"an exchange of diverging or opposite views."

The charts you posted - which are incomplete looks at only five or ten year periods by the way - was your sad attempt at exchanging a diverging viewpoint with me. Anybody who can read basic English can see that you posted those charts in an attempt to dispute (or argue) with what I said.

Either that, or you are so high on drugs that you just felt like posting a bunch of charts that have nothing to do with anything.

Which one is it, drug addict?

Oh and thanks for posting the history of drugs, that had so much to do with what we're talking about

fucking drug addicts what else can you expect from them?

Originally Posted by rob666

Get the fuck outta here

So the prison population tripling since the introduction of extreme drug laws has to do with more efficient policing, and not the harsh sentencing

And your perfectly ok with having the worlds largest prison population, both per capita and overall knowing full well that over half of that is drug related

It's idiots like you that should just stop for a minute, and look at where prohibition had taken us and ask yourself where and when it has EVER worked. It dint work in Capone's day, and it doesn't work today either ( surprise surprise).

Yeah, just keep,on locking up those evil marijuana users and growers, the planet is so much safer because of it

You fucking idiot, who cares whether it's due to harsh sentencing or effective police enforcement, they're criminals and they belong in jail. But even if it was due to harsh sentencing, they wouldn't be in prison to serve their sentences at all if it weren't for effective police enforcement to put them in jail in the first place!

God damn it's like I'm arguing with a couple of 12 year olds. And you're too busy smoking joints to understand, but the prison population is highest in the US because (a) the US has the third biggest population of any country in the world and (b) it has a much more efficient police enforcement mechanism than, say India and China so criminals actually get caught for the crimes they commit. Suddenly it's doesn't seem like such a big surprise that the US has a big prison population. Does this make sense to your pot smoke filled head?

As for those evil marijuana growers, yes hopefully we will keep locking them up. El Chapo himself was one of them you fucking dumbass.

Stop smoking so much weed potheads, and actually go educate yourselves. Bunch of fucking weed smoking high school kids.

[TwistedSisterr]

"Stop smoking so much weed potheads, and actually go educate yourselves. Bunch of fucking weed smoking high school kids."


just shut the fuck up

I have a college degree ASSHOLE AND A (average) 3.8 GPA for the ENTIRE 4 years, AND I SMOKE EVERYDAY SO get off your high horse. Weed doesnt make you stupid, emotionally immaturity and IGNORANCE make you stupid.

[TwistedSisterr]

and dont blast my typos, you just seriously pissed me off with your judgemental know it all attitude

[Johnny Alias]

Originally Posted by TwistedSisterr

and dont blast my typos, you just seriously pissed me off with your judgemental know it all attitude

You just misspelt the word "judgemental." Its correct spelling is "judgmental."

hahaha yeah ok there buddy 3.8 GPA my ass! Whatever community college you're earning your cheap degree at, they're obviously not spending much time making sure you can spell basic words correctly.

But go on, tell us more about what a genius you are

[TwistedSisterr]

omg grow up

[TwistedSisterr]

anyways! Cut his head off and post it!!!