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Old 01-06-2018, 02:38 PM
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Re: Glen Allen woman mauled to death while out for a walk

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But what about those who do take care of their dogs, do take the time to train them, and the pit still turns on them? Not saying it happens all the time, just saying you also have to take in account those situations. I'm pretty sure lions are tameable animals, and some tamed lions don't turn on their owners, but that doesn't make them safe or that they should available to everyone
That’s the thing. It doesn’t happen.
The people you see on the news and in articles who say they’ve trained their dogs and such - haven’t.
Most people think they’re a good dog owner - many people are wrong.

If you are a good dog owner, you can see the behavioral problems before they turn into something deadly and you correct them. Not only do you see them, you work to correct them.

Just because someone is nice and is passionate about their dogs, doesn’t mean they know what they’re doing.

Dogs do not suddenly turn. It’s not a thing. It’s only a “thing” if you don’t know what you’re looking at. If you don’t know the body language of dogs, you won’t see behavioral problems, until they’re dangerous. The more energetic, powerful and high drive the dog is, the more dangerous the problems can become.

You cannot compare lions to a domestic dog breed. Lions are wild, not domestic.

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Old 01-09-2018, 07:50 PM
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They are a high energy working breed with high intelligence. They are very good at most jobs.
I'd have to disagree with the "high intelligence" part. I have ex-colleagues and friends that breed dogs specifically for hunting pigs, they really know their dogs. Of course they have tried pit bulls in their pack, usually as "holders", the more intelligent breeds are trained as "bailers" (black lab was popular in the genetic mix).

The trouble with pit bulls is that they get tunnel vision when they get aggressive, they'd latch onto a boar and get torn to shreds, because the intelligence to back off has been selectively bred out of them. I recall one guy stopped using them completely in favour of bull mastiff/ staff terrier crosses, after a massive vet bill.

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Old 01-09-2018, 11:19 PM
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I have also heard of the failure of PB’s as hog dogs, because of their tendency to grab and not let go, no matter how bad the situation gets for them - Or chewing the pig up, when they’re supposed to be holding.

They were made to hold on(to the other dog) until grabbed by their handler and pried off with a break stick. The ones that did let go before pulled off, were considered “Curs” and were supposed to be culled.

Tenacity was/is very important for fighting other dogs in the blood sport. Don’t stop, even when it hurts. Can you imagine watching boxers in the ring, quit after getting punched? People wouldn’t watch.
It can be seen as stupid, or courageous - depending on who you ask.

By intelligent, I mean they can be trained to do many jobs and learn them quickly. Dogs with high drive usually are quick and eager to learn.

Staffordshire Terriers are Pit Bulls, close enough cousins to be under the umbrella.

American Pit Bull Terrier
American Staffordshire Terrier
Staffordshire Terrier
Bull Terrier(Pit Bull with some other shit mixed in)

The last one on the list is the most diluted, but still as feisty and prone to fighting as all the others.

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Old 01-14-2018, 08:43 AM
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Though quite horrible, it does not serve as an indictment of all Pit Bulls.

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One way of finding out you did a shitty job training your dogs.

I'll bet they got into a fight or tried to go after something and she got into the middle of it.

That's why it's so important to always keep up on your training on any animal in your care.

Having them since babies and loving them is not enough and can be lethal if that's all there is. There were friends of hers saying the dogs "Couldn't have done this. She's had them since they were puppies!". That's not how it works people.
so based on your post you make it sound like owning pitbulls is extremely complicated and requires specialized training that requires regular review and updating...in which case one should need a special license to own one. is that correct? if not, why not?

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Old 03-27-2018, 09:45 PM
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so based on your post you make it sound like owning pitbulls is extremely complicated and requires specialized training that requires regular review and updating...in which case one should need a special license to own one. is that correct? if not, why not?
I said “Any animal in your care” - so that would mean that they aren’t special enough to be the only breed to have regulations like that - it would be all dogs, aside from the tiniest of breeds - then again, they are capable of maiming a small child - so there goes that pass.


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Old 03-29-2018, 08:19 PM
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Re: Glen Allen woman mauled to death while out for a walk

That's terribly sad.

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