[sklarian]

[quote=wickedlara;4973344]

Originally Posted by Oswald2001 ↗

Yes, like for quadriplegics, maybe, or for the terminally ill in pain. Even most of those people don't commit suicide.

Anyway this boy was healthy and had a family. He had to know what death was by his age, I just think he was foolish to throw his life away. I know I wouldn't. I might if the person to be killed was someone I loved, but for a stranger, no way? I could risk my life for a stranger, like trying to save someone drowning, but that is different.

Now think of it from the perspective of the bus driver's family. I bet they aren't saying he should have gone through with it... He did the right thing. Period.

[niknik]

These gangs are and have been making it into America for years.

The ms13 gang I believe is from Guatemala. There's hundreds if not thousands of Guatemalan gang members in California and Arizona.

But ya know, what can ya do? Build a fence
Guard the border :

That would be racist

[wickedlara]

[quote=sklarian;5024844]

Originally Posted by wickedlara ↗

Now think of it from the perspective of the bus driver's family. I bet they aren't saying he should have gone through with it... He did the right thing. Period.

Ok now think of from the boy's parents' point of view. I think they would like the kid alive. Life is all you have that matters, nothing is worth dying for except, maybe, people you love. The boy was brave but foolish.

[wickedlara]

Originally Posted by sklarian ↗

but can be very proud of the great man he was becoming; which he wouldn't have become had he opted to kill another innocent person in order to save his own skin. We need more people like him in this world.

He is not in the world now because he was stupid. I bet his parents wish he were still here no matter what he had to do. Death is not brave; it is nothing, and now he is nothing, a waste of an existence.

[facing_reality]

Originally Posted by wickedlara ↗

It so easy to say, "I would have died." I bet you would have, not. Try being honest. Every living thing in nature tries to survive to pass on its DNA. This is how evolution works. His DNA won't be passed on, hence he gets a Darwin award. I live with nature as my guide. How do you feel about a government bombing a city? Thousand and thousands die for your governments goal. Have you tried to stop any of this mass killing? You are so brave when it's just words. I am honest.

BTW, your little hero is just worm shit by now. Would you want to be in his place or yours. I will take life over death. Grow up. This isn't a movie. When you die you are dead forever. If there were a hell, I would chose that over a wicked, psycho god's paradise.

Live long and prosper.

This type of person is why the Nazis were able to implement the final solution. This type of person is also the reason that gangs (including terrorists) use violent intimidation: because it works on people like this. This person has no greater morality than thinking about her own pathetic skin, which will also be worm-food eventually. She also mocks Thaknight33, when I would've tried to do the same thing. If they gave me a gun with more than one bullet, I'd use on it on them and take as many as I could with me. (Of course, I'd likely be carrying a gun in that "shithole" anyway.)

I wouldn't have faulted the boy for shooting the bus driver (I'd have faulted the gang,) but I think it's really, REALLY fucking low to even suggest that the boy made the wrong choice, just because you wouldn't have the guts to do it.

I also don't understand anybody who can read a story like this, see a group photo of these belly-crawling low-lifes, and still be opposed to the death penalty.

[facing_reality]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

The ms13 gang I believe is from Guatemala.

But ya know, what can ya do? Build a fence
Guard the border :

That would be racist

niknik, MS-13, La Mara Salvatruchas, founded in Los Angeles, was started by and is primarily composed of illegal immigrants from El Salvador. It has spread to Southern/Central America, and infects much of the U.S. The "13" is a designation started in California, and now nationwide; it means that in prison, the gang falls under the control, affiliation, and protection of the "Mexican Mafia." In U.S. prisons, the lines are strictly drawn along race.

[niknik]

Originally Posted by facing_reality ↗

niknik, MS-13, La Mara Salvatruchas, founded in Los Angeles, was started by and is primarily composed of illegal immigrants from El Salvador. It has spread to Southern/Central America, and infects much of the U.S. The "13" is a designation started in California, and now nationwide; it means that in prison, the gang falls under the control, affiliation, and protection of the "Mexican Mafia." In U.S. prisons, the lines are strictly drawn along race.

I was confused. I recently read a story about Guatemala and ms13. They had 400+ murders in one month, which they contributed to ms13 and another gang.

But my point that they're mainly illegals still stands. They're considered the most violent gang in the world. And we just let them in

[facing_reality]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

I was confused. I recently read a story about Guatemala and ms13. They had 400+ murders in one month, which they contributed to ms13 and another gang.

But my point that they're mainly illegals still stands. They're considered the most violent gang in the world. And we just let them in

niknik, I wouldn't doubt it; bacteria spreads. It's what it does. How disgusting. In the states the only "requirement" is being an illegal immigrant with a Spanish accent (admittedly they group by nationality). How do you like that? In the U.S., these assholes are entirely comprised of illegals, yet they cause utter mayhem.

And the fact that they're in Guatemala? They can thank liberal, bleeding-heart imbeciles that instituted a policy of returning these scumbag "undocumented workers" to their home countries instead of killing them like we should've. That's right: they killed, robbed, or assaulted somebody, and we gave 'em a free plane ticket to socialista countries, where they walked off the plane into unbridled freedom (see El Salvador's FMLN). Cute, huh?

[niknik]

Originally Posted by facing_reality ↗

niknik, I wouldn't doubt it; bacteria spreads. It's what it does. How disgusting. In the states the only "requirement" is being an illegal immigrant with a Spanish accent (admittedly they group by nationality). How do you like that? In the U.S., these assholes are entirely comprised of illegals, yet they cause utter mayhem.

And the fact that they're in Guatemala? They can thank liberal, bleeding-heart imbeciles that instituted a policy of returning these scumbag "undocumented workers" to their home countries instead of killing them like we should've. That's right: they killed, robbed, or assaulted somebody, and we gave 'em a free plane ticket to socialista countries, where they walked off the plane into unbridled freedom (see El Salvador's FMLN). Cute, huh?

It's also funny how these "Hispanics" come to America and segregate themselves.

Watch the documentaries on these gangs. They hate black people. They come in, take over neighborhoods. Run other races off their territory. Refuse to assimilate, or even follow the law. Kill people for the color if their skin.

Yet sending them all home and blocking entry is somehow racist

It's truly insane.

[wickedlara]

Originally Posted by facing_reality ↗

I wouldn't have faulted the boy for shooting the bus driver (I'd have faulted the gang,) but I think it's really, REALLY fucking low to even suggest that the boy made the wrong choice, just because you wouldn't have the guts to do it.
I also don't understand anybody who can read a story like this, see a group photo of these belly-crawling low-lifes, and still be opposed to the death penalty.

I don't doubt his bravery, but suicide is a waste. It is a form of suicide to die if you don't have to. I will admit that I would have shot the driver without a regret. I am here to live, not to die. They would have murdered him, not me; I would be only a blameless weapon. I know you think you would have died like that foolish yet brave boy, but you don't really know, do you?