France Issues First Fine for Woman in Islamic Veil (12 April 2011)

[güttsfükk]

Women can be taken to a police station if they refuse to remove their veils

French police say they have issued their first penalty to a woman for covering her face with an Islamic veil.

The woman was stopped in a shopping centre in Paris on Monday evening - the same day that a law banning face coverings in public came into force.

Police said they gave the 27-year-old woman a ticket that requires her to pay a 150-euro (£133) fine or register for citizenship classes within a month.

France is the first country in Europe to publicly ban the Muslim face veil.

Under the law, any woman - French or foreign - walking on the street or in a park in France and wearing a face-concealing veil such as the niqab or burka can be stopped by police and given a fine.

People forcing women to wear the veil face a much larger fine and a prison sentence of up to two years.

Two veiled women were briefly detained earlier on Monday - though police said it was not because of their veils but for joining an unauthorised protest and refusing to move on, and they were later released.

Guidelines issued to police say they should not ask women to remove their veils in the street - if necessary they should escort them to a police station where they would be asked to uncover their faces for identification.

The French government says the face-covering veil undermines the basic standards required for living in a shared society and also relegates its wearers to an inferior status incompatible with French notions of equality.

The ban on face coverings - which does not explicitly mention Islamic veils, but exempts various other forms - has angered some Muslims and libertarians.

Exceptions to ban on public face covering

• Motorcycle helmets
• Face-masks for health reasons
• Face-covering for sporting or professional activities
• Sunglasses, hats etc which do not completely hide the face
• Masks used in "traditional activities", such as carnivals or religious processions

Source : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13050445

[Pappyo13]

Will they cancel Halloween this year too?

[güttsfükk]

i believe halloween costumes will be allowed under the traditional carnivals rule

[TwistedPrincess]

if the muslims don't like the laws where they migrate to then they can just migrate back home. our attire isn't acceptable in some of the muslim run countries and punishment can be worse than a simple fine. works both ways. if you can't fit in where you go then its time to go back where you fit.

[Faline]

Originally Posted by TwistedPrincess

if the muslims don't like the laws where they migrate to then they can just migrate back home. our attire isn't acceptable in some of the muslim run countries and punishment can be worse than a simple fine. works both ways. if you can't fit in where you go then its time to go back where you fit.

Totally agree

[ChockFullOfChock]

Originally Posted by TwistedPrincess

if the muslims don't like the laws where they migrate to then they can just migrate back home. our attire isn't acceptable in some of the muslim run countries and punishment can be worse than a simple fine. works both ways. if you can't fit in where you go then its time to go back where you fit.

I agree 100% on this.

As I've said before, I moved to Italy and had to adapt. I had to learn the language, I had to accept the laws, I had to deal with prejudice, and I had to get on without a sympathetic ear.

Fuck you cunts for trying to take advantage. Go out there and make yourself useful.

[osiris]

Originally Posted by TwistedPrincess

if the muslims don't like the laws where they migrate to then they can just migrate back home. our attire isn't acceptable in some of the muslim run countries and punishment can be worse than a simple fine. works both ways. if you can't fit in where you go then its time to go back where you fit.

What if it's a native french woman? Where does she go? Religion isn't bound to location.

[shane2]

Originally Posted by TwistedPrincess

if the muslims don't like the laws where they migrate to then they can just migrate back home. our attire isn't acceptable in some of the muslim run countries and punishment can be worse than a simple fine. works both ways. if you can't fit in where you go then its time to go back where you fit.

I agree and think Australia should ban it as well. If i were to leave my house with a ski mask on i would be arrested even if it's freezing cold but here are these people who cover their face and some of them threatening to bomb places. Look at how many of them have been arrested in Sydney and Melbourne over the past couple of years for planning attacks and actually being caught with the explosive materials in their house.

[AmericanIllusions]

Gotta agree too; covering your hair and figure is one thing but total veiling of the face is just creepy. I remember pulling out of the bank parking lot in a rush and slamming on my breaks to avoid a head on with a van pulling in full of masked (Muslim) woman. For a sec I thought they were armed gunman ready to pull off a heist. I was startled. True story

[ChockFullOfChock]

Originally Posted by osiris

What if it's a native french woman? Where does she go? Religion isn't bound to location.

Nah, you're right, it's bound to ignorance. Educate this French woman and she wont need to be sent back anywhere.