[Wench]

Originally Posted by Illbegotten1 ↗

Simply because you are a female who can carry a baby and give birth to it does NOT mean you are "automatically" programed by the "nature" of your sex to want to be pregnant, or go through birth, or rear any child society and it's more demanding members (usually religious) will hold the female to simply because she is female. Just as it is NOT acceptable to me (as a rational atheist) to have every egg that is fertilized result in a living baby, for whatever reason women rationalize having a baby. There are women enough who are thrilled with finding out they are pregnant, enjoy their pregnancy, look forward to that baby, and have a mate who are just as thrilled, and both of them actually make more than the effort to raise that child to be a decent person, and once they have grown to be a family unit, have funny, even hilarious stories about what everyone went through while the kids were growing up, and even the hard times are, with time, told with love and laughter.
It is unfair to label this woman as a "cunt" or "selfish" or imagine she would do the same even if this were a "normal" child. Perhaps she is just being rational, does not want to spend her life shackled to someone she must constantly care for, and does not wish to waste her entire life on that one person. There are women who do, and they cannot imagine doing anything differently. Just like there are men who have done what this man has done and cannot imagine anything different.
If any of you want to throw kudos at the ones who do because they do, hey, feel free! But don't punt the ones who don't for following their own natures and feel self-satisfaction in demeaning any other human being to make yourself somehow look better.
I would use the most often used example, the Spartans, but every society has had to decide who lives and who dies based on how much work and resources must go into ONE child to the detriment of the TRIBE as a whole. We are not here because our ancestors were "wonderful, loving people who would do anything for a baby". We are the progeny of the people who made hard decisions based on simplicity of the survival of the group.

"You're horrible." - Sansa Stark, Game Of Thrones
"I'm honest. The world is horrible." - Sandor Clegane, Game Of Thrones

It's an old story, told even before there was writing.

Hear, Hear! Yours is a voice of absolute reason...thank you again.

[bando21]

right on the feels

[DiamondSmiles]

*Mother Speaks Out: Says Husband Fled to New Zealand With Baby Leo*

February 7, 2015

A mother, accused of leaving her husband because their child was born with Down syndrome, is speaking out.

Doctors told the parents they could keep him or give him to foster care.

His dad, Samuel Forrest, claims his wife divorced him because he wanted to keep their son.

Now, the child's mother, Ruzan Badalyan, is refuting those claims.

She said she never gave her husband an ultimatum.

She says, she simply wanted to move to a different country to raise the boy where he might have a better future.

Badalyan says her husband abandoned her during the hardest decision of her life and took their son to New Zealand.

Forrest told reporters he is open to a possible reunion with his wife.

[LadyCPlum]

And I have a hysterectomy scheduled for March 3. Maybe that's why I'm sensitive to stories like this. She did do the right thing in the end, but to make her husband choose between her and the child they had created together is fucked the hell up.

[LadyCPlum]

Oh Lord, "he said she said"

[winvens]

The boy will be better off without his biological mom. No big loss.

[ralucagymnast]

Obviously God forbid her, shed stopped being "mother".

[Pollucy]

The first thing that hit me when I heard about this is that the only reason this is even in the news is because it's the mother abandoning her child, not the father. Fathers leave their wives/girlfriends every fucking day because they don't want to deal with their newborn child having special needs. We don't hear about it in the news because we are used to the traditional idea of nurturing mother/callous father. I'm not saying the father isn't doing "the right thing" or whatever, I'm just saying he's doing what a ton of mothers do every day and his gender is the only reason why he's being praised for it. Same goes for the mother; she does what a ton of fathers do every day and her gender is the only reason why she's being bashed on for it.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by CrunchyCripple ↗

So, don't they have common tests during pregnancy that detect downs? She should have found out beforehand - unless she wasn't getting proper pre natal care.

Should be mandatory imo to prevent tragedies like in this case. Guess not all couples discuss on forehand what to do when the baby gets born with down or physical handicapped.
Wonder if the mother is going to suffer sleepless nights over her radical decission as usual to abandon a baby is more of a guy's thing as men don't carry a baby inside them for 9 months.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by diamondsmiles ↗

*Mother Speaks Out: Says Husband Fled to New Zealand With Baby Leo*February 7, 2015

A mother, accused of leaving her husband because their child was born with Down syndrome, is speaking out.

Doctors told the parents they could keep him or give him to foster care.

His dad, Samuel Forrest, claims his wife divorced him because he wanted to keep their son.

Now, the child's mother, Ruzan Badalyan, is refuting those claims.

She said she never gave her husband an ultimatum.

She says, she simply wanted to move to a different country to raise the boy where he might have a better future.

Badalyan says her husband abandoned her during the hardest decision of her life and took their son to New Zealand.

Forrest told reporters he is open to a possible reunion with his wife.

Now that's a completely different story so wonder who speaks the truth or did the media spiked this story up