Facility Found for Braindead Calif. Teen on Ventilator

[vagabond]

Originally Posted by K9Grip

I just read something called, Trials and Tribulations Jahi's Legacy. It's really good and gives a lot of information the press is leaving out.
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/...is-legacy.html

Thanks for posting this- excellent article. Explained a lot for me!

[shinycatcreations]

Originally Posted by bigjoe

Serious question. How is it this girl was brain dead in December, and is already necrotizing with a decayed abdominal system and leaking brain juice, but the brain dead woman in Texas was brain dead in November, and is "healthy" enough to give nourishment to her baby?

I was wondering the same thing. I heard of a pregnant woman that was brain dead i believe(although I may be getting that story confused with her being in a coma) for 100 days so her baby could be born. I believe most of it would have to do with food intake. If they didn't feed her for that long that probably sped up the decay. Unlike the pregnant woman they were feeding the whole time and giving hormones too also. If jahi didnt get any food or hormones for almost a month then thats probably why shes decaying faster.

[K9Grip]

Originally Posted by vagabond

Thanks for posting this- excellent article. Explained a lot for me!

No problem. Love the avatar!

[K9Grip]

Originally Posted by vagabond

That damn lawyer is just prolonging the agony for the family- all for the almighty dollar

I don't agree with him getting death threats, but as far as the general public being pissed with him, I'm all for it.

[Azimuth]

Okay this is just fucking macabre now.

Supposedly a doctor, an MD? Somewhere installed a trach and feeding tube in a dead rotting gi tract? Why is this still going on? I don't believe this, I really don't.

Also, the lawyers own words.. Is she recovering or is she deteriorating?

(Oh right, she's decomposing. )

[Kelseecat65]

Originally Posted by azimuth

Okay this is just fucking macabre now.

Supposedly a doctor, an MD? Somewhere installed a trach and feeding tube in a dead rotting gi tract? Why is this still going on? I don't believe this, I really don't.

Also, the lawyers own words.. Is she recovering or is she deteriorating?

(Oh right, she's decomposing. )

I saw that the other day too
Sadly, right now this is all happening to appease that brain dead mother who is refusing to accept her daughter's death.

It's driving me crazy that we have no further info/updates on this insane situation.

[Kelseecat65]

New Article (yeah!!)
1-13-14
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...#axzz2qIxyvqtR

The 70+ comments are most interesting to read as well!


Medical ethicists are criticizing the unnamed facility that agreed to keep the body of 13-year-old Jahi McMath on a ventilator after transferring her from an Oakland hospital, saying it will only*delay the inevitable while potentially causing long-term financial and emotional harm to her family.

Jahi's case has been widely criticized by medical experts who have emphasized that people who are declared brain-dead are no longer alive. At least three neurologists confirmed Jahi was unable to breathe on her own, had no blood flow to her brain and had no sign of electrical activity three days after she*underwent surgery Dec. 9 to remove her tonsils, adenoids and uvula at Children's Hospital Oakland and went into cardiac arrest,*causing*extensive*hemorrhaging in her brain.

After waging a public relations battle with the hospital, Jahi's family members won a court order keeping her on a ventilator, and eventually permission to transfer her to an undisclosed care facility. Medical ethicists are blaming the operators of that facility for perpetuating misconceptions of brain death that have dogged the Jahi case since her family went public.

"What could they be thinking?" Laurence McCullough, a professor at the Center for Medical Ethics and Health Policy at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, told USA Today "Their thinking must be disordered, from a medical point of view. ... There is a word for this: crazy."

San Francisco attorney Christopher Dolan has also been widely criticized as having fed false hope to the McMath family that somehow their daughter -- who was issued a death certificate by the Alameda County coroner -- will recover.

Bodies of the brain-dead have been maintained on respirators for months or, in rare cases, years. However, once cessation of all brain activity is confirmed, there is no recovery, said Rebecca S. Dresser, professor of law and ethics in medicine at Washington University in St. Louis, to the Times.

For his part, Dolan has called accusations that he has misled the McMath family offensive, adding that they are "smart people" who are above getting “hoodwinked by some lawyer that’s manipulating them."

But McCullough told USA Today that he worries about the emotional and financial damage that the parents will suffer, noting that "insurance doesn't pay for dead people."

The McMaths raised tens of thousands of dollars from the public during their campaign to keep Jahi on a ventilator -- money Dolan has said was used to transfer the girl's body to the unnamed facility. But experts point out that the money*will eventually run out, and no amount of artificial help will stop Jahi's body from decomposing.

"The additional medical interventions Petitioner proposes are unprecedented. They simply will not bring her back to life nor enable others to do so," according to a court declaration from Dr. Heidi Flori, a critical care physician at*Children's Hospital & Research Center Oakland, which had sought to remove the teen from the ventilator after she was declared*brain-dead*Dec. 12.

McCullough agreed. "Are there some living cells in the body? Not all the cells die at once. It takes time. But her body will start to break down and decay. It's a matter of when, not whether."

[shinycatcreations]

Thanks for the new article. I feel for them but i think eventually they are going to have to give out more details. They are getting money from donations, once they stop telling people whats going on i think the donations are going to dry up. People want to know where thier money is going.

[bigjoe]

I think the doctors are sore that they couldn't get that dead girl's organs in time.

I think the mother was talked into organ donation, saw the girl's corpse have a Lazarus reflex or something, thought the girl was alive, and backed out.

[petedeamon]

Zero activity in the brain is enough reality for me to let a soul depart. Obviously the poor family is at odds finding peace. Very sad and I hope the future will send them a kind path to allow closure.