[Agapeti]

I read that the only thing she had was a popsicle after the surgery. I am curious as to why she was in the ICU after a simple surgery. Even more alarming is the fact that the staff did nothing but give the family a cup to catch the blood. She should have been taken back to surgery not only to see why she was bleeding profusely but to actually fix it before she went into cardiac arrest.

The coroner has already issued a death certificate for her dated like the 12th of December. How is that possible? This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

I can certainly see why the family is in denial of the whole situation. There are hundreds of people that are brain dead on ventilators in nursing homes. Why the hospital is pushing for her to be taken off life support against the family's wishes is beyond me. As far as I can tell, the hospital is at fault for not taking action when she was bleeding profusely.

[Samara]

Originally Posted by Agapeti ↗

I read that the only thing she had was a popsicle after the surgery. I am curious as to why she was in the ICU after a simple surgery.

It wasn't a simple surgery. She had multiple surgical procedures done at one time. Her tonsils and adenoids were removed, her uvula was either wholly or partially removed and the tissue of her soft palate was removed and/or resculpted. That is major surgery in a very small, confined area of the body. Even if she "only had a Popsicle," prevailing comments have been that she should not have been speaking, let alone ingesting anything liquid or solid.

Members of her family admitted they applied suction to clear the blood. They did not alert nurses for at least a minute or two. Suction can cause vagus nerve stimulation, which can lead to cardiac arrest. That's one of several things that could have happened.

Jahi was issued a death certificate on December 12 because she was declared legally dead due to brain death. She remains in the hospital because of legal intervention. The only "life" in her is artificial. If the support was removed, her heart might beat independently for a short time, but cardiac death would come quickly.

No, there are not "brain-dead" people just lying around in nursing homes. Learn a little about the persistent vegetative state and brain death.

[K9Grip]

Originally Posted by Crzytwn ↗

I have a hard time wrapping my head around the concept that my opinions/thoughts are not the same as the majority of other humans.

All of us may have thought "wow, that little girl is obese," but we used tact when stating our opinion.

[K9Grip]

Originally Posted by Crzytwn ↗

Have you seen what that little piggy looked like? She had a fat potato head, eyes buried in facial fat folds, a neck that resembled a walruses neck that I'm sure had sweat and dirt trapped in the folds. I seriously wanted to push that fat little girl off a cliff. Looking at her morbidly obese ass aggravated me, but I am quickly brought a sense of comfort knowing her fat ass died while eating a cheeseburger and yapping away after mouth/ throat surgery. It's Darwinism at its finest.

Hmmm, I wonder what people think when they see you smoking around your son???

[Kelseecat65]

Originally Posted by K9Grip ↗

Hmmm, I wonder what people think when they see you smoking around your son???

Smoking around children? Around here, people get tickets for that while in a car.

[Kelseecat65]

Originally Posted by Samara ↗

Members of her family admitted they applied suction to clear the blood. They did not alert nurses for at least a minute or two. Suction can cause vagus nerve stimulation, which can lead to cardiac arrest. That's one of several things that could have happened.

Interesting how this, and much more information you have shared with us, has not been mentioned on the news. Certainly puts a different spin on this story, in terms of blame, partial or otherwise.

I can't figure out how her mom can think that after almost a month without nutrition, her daughter would be ok, and suddenly might come out of this. (lack of brain activity aside). It's really sad to think how long this may drag out.

[Ballerina]

Originally Posted by K9Grip ↗

Hmmm, I wonder what people think when they see you smoking around your son???

Retard.

[K9Grip]

Originally Posted by Crzytwn ↗

Retard.

Yes, you are, but I could think of a few others that would fit better.

[shinycatcreations]

What did they use for suction? If they did that without calling nurses thats messed up. My husband was in the hospital and as soon as something went wrong or looked remotely wierd I called somebody in. Did I read someone in her family was a nurse or was that my imagination?

[Agapeti]

Originally Posted by Samara ↗

It wasn't a simple surgery. She had multiple surgical procedures done at one time. Her tonsils and adenoids were removed, her uvula was either wholly or partially removed and the tissue of her soft palate was removed and/or resculpted. That is major surgery in a very small, confined area of the body. Even if she "only had a Popsicle," prevailing comments have been that she should not have been speaking, let alone ingesting anything liquid or solid.

Members of her family admitted they applied suction to clear the blood. They did not alert nurses for at least a minute or two. Suction can cause vagus nerve stimulation, which can lead to cardiac arrest. That's one of several things that could have happened.

Jahi was issued a death certificate on December 12 because she was declared legally dead due to brain death. She remains in the hospital because of legal intervention. The only "life" in her is artificial. If the support was removed, her heart might beat independently for a short time, but cardiac death would come quickly.

No, there are not "brain-dead" people just lying around in nursing homes. Learn a little about the persistent vegetative state and brain death.

Ok