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09-15-2015, 07:28 AM
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Re: Crane Collapse at Mecca's Masjid al-Haram
Israel is fine. It has been just fine all along. The people of Arab/moo slum ******* - spread by the DEATH Cult - have 99.95% of all land in that region. ALL of it taken by force through violence, warfare, intimidation, etc. They don't need any more. It is not The Juice that have been causing problems. The people of Arab/moo slum ******* - spread by the DEATH Cult - have constantly caused problems in their own region for 1,000's of years and today the rest of the world. Leave teenie tiny little postage stamped sized Israel alone. It's just that simple. But the people of the Arab/moo slum ******* just won't do it. Remember The Beslan Massacre? They were the same people with the same cancerous Arab/moo slum ******* as the psychopaths constantly attacking Israel. Using the same bogus excuses too.  · |
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09-15-2015, 01:21 PM
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Re: Crane Collapse at Mecca's Masjid al-Haram
"Israel" is nothing more than a white European settler colony and dependency state, which wouldn't survive were it not for US politicians handing it billions of US taxpayer money each year. Unless the electorate contained within the Zionist entity in Palestine elect sensible leadership, it will eventually be destroyed. I don't say that with any glee, but it's an inevitable consequence of its current actions. |
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09-15-2015, 01:30 PM
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Re: Crane Collapse at Mecca's Masjid al-Haram
I have wondered if there are really any ...I dont know the word...."Indigenous Jewish people"? in Israel,. They use the Torah to justify the occupation of the land for the Jews, yet, I dont see any "NATIVE Jews". |
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09-15-2015, 02:04 PM
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Re: Crane Collapse at Mecca's Masjid al-Haram
Yes, they're called the Mizrahi but are really Arab Jews. The Ashkenazim (white European Jews) are the invaders. If there was a historic Jewish exodus (which archeaologists doubt) the Ashkenazim are not their direct descendents, and this has been proved genetically. It's also worth noting that there is a large contingent of Orthodox diaspora Jews who consider the State of Israel blasphemous. Below is a picture of some at a Nakba Day protest in London I attended last year.  |
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09-15-2015, 02:22 PM
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Thank You. I had no idea. arab Jews have, at the very least been in the region, if not in Israel proper. Who do you think has the real right to live on Israel. |
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09-15-2015, 03:01 PM
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Re: Crane Collapse at Mecca's Masjid al-Haram
At this point I think most people accept the fact of Israel's existence, if not its abstract "right to exist". There are now generations of descendents of the original invaders living there, so they do have rights as with any other human being. Despite the way it's portrayed in our media, the Palestinians have been very accomodating about what kind of political settlement they would accept. As far back at 1978, Yassir Arafat was prepared to accept a settlement on the West Bank and Gaza with East Jerusalem as its capital - comprising just 22% of historic Palestine. There is an overwhelming international consensus for this position, as can be seen in annual votes at the UN General Assembly. What's often omitted is that the United States has been unilaterally blocking such a settlement with its veto in the Security Council. Apart from the dire consequences this has for Palestinians, it has affected Americans directly too. It's pretty clear to me that the main motivation for the 9/11 hijackers was US support for Israel. Lee Hamilton and Thomas Kean, the co-chairs for the 9/11 Commission Report, admitted in their own follow up book, Without Precedent, that they were under pressure to downplay the motive because it may lead Americans to question the policy. Which is disgraceful when you think about it. |
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09-15-2015, 03:07 PM
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There are anti-Zionist Jews that live in Israel, that protest often to allow all people to live there. They feel that Christians, Muslims, and jews deserve a part of it, and none be ruled as a state. Most of these, are direct line of Jews that were living there before the Balfour agreement started emigrating European jews there.
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09-15-2015, 03:17 PM
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Re: Crane Collapse at Mecca's Masjid al-Haram
If you ever get the chance, I highly recommend reading this book. I don't necessarily agree with every part, but it's an outstanding contribution.  And for more of the history, you can't get much better than this. I've read it twice through and regularly refer back to it.  |
