[pbaj12]

http://www.ifhp.com/documents/2012iF...INALApril3.pdf

Prices for each country are submitted by participating federation member plans, and are drawn from different
sectors:
• Prices for the United States are calculated from a database with over 100 million claims that reflect
prices negotiated and paid between thousands of providers and almost a hundred health plans.
• Prices for Canada, New Zealand, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom are from the public sector, with
data provided by one health plan in each country.
• Prices for Australia, Chile, the Netherlands, Spain, and South Africa are from the private sector and
represent prices paid by one private health plan in each country.
• Prices for France and Argentina are a blend of public and private sector prices with the data provided by
one health plan in each country


Here are most of the graphs:

[Rudebwoy]

O_O
holy crap...

[Kanda444]

that's because the medical community in America (for the most part) is corrupt and is running a scam. you should see how many people the CDC says die in America daily from pain killer OD's... and how much these companies spend on direct to consumer ads for their drugs. it's disgusting.

[bob351]

LOL sucks for america

[Kanda444]

Originally Posted by bob351 ↗

LOL sucks for america

it's all good... we just cross the border and get cheap drugs from you guys

[bdjackass318]

Healthcare Prices in America are out of control. I was reading this morning even of the disparities amongst different hospitals in the same region. There was one procedure, I think a joint replacement where one hospital was charging like $15,000 and another in the same region was charging like $55,000. Ridiculous! Something needs to be done about the healthcare system in this country. I am just not smart enough to know what that something is.

[Darkest Angel]

We certainly aren't paying extra for quality care, are we?
But then, the er cannot refuse patients based on lack of insurance, so that's a plus.

[pbaj12]

Originally Posted by darkest angel ↗

We certainly aren't paying extra for quality care, are we?
But then, the er cannot refuse patients based on lack of insurance, so that's a plus.

No, if you look at reports you can get the same or better care elsewhere. We also don't have as high doctor to patient ratio that other countries have.

The EMTALA requires hospitals to stabilize a person regardless of legal status or ability to pay. Hospitals write this off as unpaid debt and it's a tax write off. If the person is conscious and oriented after their emergency problems have been fixed and they don't need help (like breathing, eating, etc.) they can be discharged. It's estimated that over $40 billion or about half of emergency care is now uncompensated.


So it seems in this country you either want to be poor (at least on paper) enough so you get free stuff (healthcare, food stamps, no taxes) or rich enough that things don't matter. The middle class is screwed.

[knuggy]

Originally Posted by darkest angel ↗

We certainly aren't paying extra for quality care, are we?

You hit the nail on the head sister

[rob666]

Everybody against "socialized" medicine needs to look at the numbers.....