Cleveland Police Shoot 12-Year-Old Holding BB Gun

[facing_reality]

Originally Posted by redelefant

I've seen enough to respectfully disagree.

I'm sorry, but this is why anecdotal evidence is not evidence at all.

Consider the following:

In 2008, there were approximately 765,000 sworn Law Enforcement Officers (LEOs.)

If you personally witnessed a different, individual officer kill a black man every single hour of 2008, you'd have 8,760 dead black men, & 8,760 killer cops (regardless of justification) for the year.

While that would be truly incredible (in fact it would be a ludicrous 40 times greater than reality!!!), see the graph below to see how insignificant the "killer cops" numbers would be compared to all active LEOs in the U.S.

In fact, over a seven year period (2003–2009,) the average number of black deaths (all causes in police custody) were 220. The average number of white deaths over the same period? 289. That means a white man has a 13.5% greater chance of dying in police custody than a black man.

Source of Data: U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics, publications:
July 26, 2011 NCJ 233982
Nov 17, 2011 NCJ 235385

[RealityUnfolding]

Originally Posted by redelefant

If the kid was white he'd be alive. You can speculate all you want, but that's damn near a fact.

"Damn near a fact"? Is that the new way to say a few percent?

This graphic begs to differ.

And I think the families of Kelly Thomas (brutally beaten to a pulp, crying out for his father), David Kassack (shot dead, laying face down in the snow), Zachary Hammond (who's date sold a joint, where the cop also stated he was in danger, about to be run over and shot him in the front... yet video shows the cop made it up and the unarmed teen was shot in the side and back), and Dillon Taylor (who had headphones in) would disagree with you.

The fact is, it takes about 40 million police interactions in any given week before a fatal shooting occurs. Check the link, you can filter many circumstances - the fact is, white or black, very, very few are unarmed (and yes, knives, machetes, pipes, etc. ARE considered armed).

And hell, we STILL have no idea how two black officers rolled upon a white man and shot at him and killed his little boy, Jeremy Mardis. They won't release crap in that case but give vague "we believe he was targeted" and the father had his hands up. No warrant, no crime, and no details on what was seen in the video that they also won't release. No hate crime charges or federal deprivation of rights investigations based on the race of the cops and victims alone. Nothing, nada. No movement in the case for months.

[Oswald2001]

Originally Posted by redelefant

I've seen enough to respectfully disagree.

No. That's called denial.

[RealityUnfolding]

Originally Posted by redelefant

If the kid was white he'd be alive. You can speculate all you want, but that's damn near a fact.

Doh, a case just happened for ya.

ZION, Ill. (WLS) --
Zion police identified the man fatally shot by police near a school as Charles Hollstein, 38, of Zion.

Hollstein had a roommate. Gary Zilm said police came to their apartment on Wednesday night.

"When I first watched the news and stuff, I was like, 'taking pictures of schools?' My roommate would never take pictures,'" Zilm said.

On Wednesday, police officers were called to the school on reports of suspicious man taking photographs while class was in session. Police officers radioed in that the man was wearing what looked like a bulletproof vest. Investigators said it had homemade metal plates inside.

"I always seen him with his vest on, but I never knew anything about it. He would always wear a black vest and a black cap with gloves every time that I ever seen him," neighbor Dianne Laura said.

Police officers struggled with Hollstein and used a stun gun unsuccessfully before he was shot, investigators said. He had an airsoft gun on him, investigators said, which officers on the scene thought was a handgun.

[SLAPAPPY]

He was only a birthday or 2 away from getting shot with a real gun in his hands anyway. Parents should be arrested for ghetto abortion by letting their kid go out in public with a real looking fake. Almost seems like a setup for sue for wrongful money or as they callzit... ghetto lot tree mudda fucka!

[facing_reality]

Originally Posted by SLAPAPPY

... ghetto abortion...

"LaQuan! LaQuan! You gots yo' special toy I gaves you to show the poe-leese man on the corner?"

"Yes, Mama. But Mama, I ain't got enough money to get back home on the bus..."

"Oh, don't worry 'bout 'dat none. Go on. Git!"
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The very concept is so horribly offensive.... it's hilarious!

[Bletch]

Nope

[SLAPAPPY]

Originally Posted by facing_reality

"LaQuan! LaQuan! You gots yo' special toy I gaves you to show the poe-leese man on the corner?"

"Yes, Mama. But Mama, I ain't got enough money to get back home on the bus..."

"Oh, don't worry 'bout 'dat none. Go on. Git!"
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The very concept is so horribly offensive.... it's hilarious!

Meant to be both as you just have to wonder if parents are doing this on purpose because it just looks to be amazingly idiotic. Ghetto Lotree... when my baby's numba's up, I can sues da popo fo my monies!