[rapeWhistle]

[quote=Top Gear;4738871]

Originally Posted by niknik ↗

Not really a massacre. These people showed up with weapons to fight. Massacre suggest a indiscriminate killing, it's rather obvious they weren't shooting indiscriminately.

So no, this doesn't count as a American massacre.

I'm sure sometime soon a progressive liberal douchebag will steal his mom's gun and shoot a bunch of kids. I think Democrats call them martyrs.[/QUOTE

Right, only Democrats have guns and shoot kids right.

The Sandy Hook kid, the Columbine Kids, and the majority of other 'School Shooters' of note usually came from families that were left-leaning in their politics - Google it, i'm too lazy to find it.
Pretty sure the Dark Night/theater shooting dude volunteered for the Obama campaign.

Not defending niknik, just clarifying what he was referring to.

[rapeWhistle]

Originally Posted by Kelseecat65 ↗

My brother was part of a "riding club" for a few years. They raised money for kids charities, among other things.


I was happy when his then girlfriend started sleeping with one of the other bikers, and he ended most ties with that group, except at Bike Night at QSL.

I go on rides with the local chapter of the Gypsies from time to time - they're a Riding Club and are family oriented. Just BBQ's, parties, poker runs for charity, etc. No organized crime, they have the approval of the Bandidos to do their thing, but are not a support club.
Just weekend warriors that like riding and camaraderie.

[sprchrgdtrky]

lets see how long before they start putting limits on the Rallies that are so popular out here.. Sturgis, Laughlin, etc... even the Hollister Rally is catching flak because of this and "dangerous bikers". I've lived here in Hollister for many years and would much rather have a town full of the bikers that come through here every 4th of July than have the hoodrat wannabe gangbangers here

[icheerthebull]

I'd really like to know how many were killed by the police

[Covered up]

Originally Posted by TheVrist ↗

The fat one sitting down is holding someone's cut. Must be a dead one's.

That's funny, the fat one. Even the cops were fat. Ever fly thru the Houston airport? Seems like everyone is well fed in Texas.

[Illusion]

Weapons Count Update

I have asked the Crime Scene Supervisor to give me a more firm count of weapons discovered from the Twin Peaks Restaurant so far. The first number I gave this morning was a best guess estimate from looking at the overall crime scene and was over estimated. My apologies for the confusion and I should have waited to release a more specific count not estimate.

The crime scene officers specifically stopped at my request to count weapons and have now been able to determine that count and it is 318 and still counting. We do expect the numbers to continue to rise. Please understand this is an extremely complex crime scene and they specifically took the time out to be able to give me a more accurate account late this afternoon. Those weapons include clubs, knifes, brass knuckles, firearms, and chains with padlocks attached to them intended and used as weapons.

The earlier estimate was an attempt to give me a count and it was initially believed the number was higher than we now know. We stand corrected at 318 and counting, with the crime scene still being processed. The weapons appear to have been discarded as Officers arrived and some hastily hidden. The have been found in sacks of chips, stuffed between bags of flour, stuffed into the bench seating, hidden in shelves, thrown into trash cans, placed in the kitchen stoves, discarded on floors and even so far as to attempt to flush a handgun down a commode. An Ak-47 was found in a vehicle parked in the parking lot as well as body armor.

Weapon breakdown so far is this:
118 Handguns
1 Ak-47
157 Knives
43 others

I will continue to provide you with the most accurate information not estimates as we progress thru this incident.


https://www.facebook.com/WacoPoliceD...17772148271343

[TheVrist]

chains with padlocks attached to them intended and used as weapons.

Conjecture-

bikers with belt driven harleys would bind the spokes to the frame, because the belt could easily be cut making them easier to push.

[icheerthebull]

'Would it have been different if the Waco bikers were black?'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32781477

seeing a lot of this but what facts have we heard. Bikers had gathered there, police claim they were openly present that day and many before. a fight breaks out.

If it comes out that all were killed by the police there will be problems. Yes they are idiots but they in the us, canada, NZ and europe have fired rockets and planted bombs for their fueds.

the masacre at winepeg (sic?) created waves. For all the bulshit It was still viewed as a sully for the enemy and allies. If a fight broke out, the police then shot 9 people and proceeded to round up every biker and hold them on a 1m bond. I think it could create problems

last thing anyone needs is for biker gangs to put on a united front as it is international

this is looking bad for the police at the min

[kellyhound]

Surveillance video from Waco, Texas, shows the shootout between police and biker clubs that ended with nine dead and 177 arrested in May.

Authorities say the May 17 shootout outside the Twin Peaks restaurant stemmed from an apparent confrontation between the Cossacks and Bandidos, both classified as gangs by the Texas Department of Public Safety. It remains unclear who fired the bullets that struck the nine who died; the results of autopsies and ballistic analyses have not been made public.

All 177 people arrested initially were held on a $1 million bond each on charges of engaging in organized criminal activity. Only two remain in jail and there have been no indictments.

[Zambini]

Big boy in the center at the beginning has zero training, he would have been the first taken out if anyone had been shooting at the group inside the bar.

It is reported that the police are pissed and looking for whoever leaked the footage