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Re: Woman Executed by Narco Gang

Could be her.

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Re: Woman Executed by Narco Gang

JFC are people seriously still trying to claim this is fake?

This is documenting reality, not documenting people burying their head in the sand.
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Re: Woman Executed by Narco Gang

Absolutely not her. She flat-out gives her name in the video and it ain't Karen. She IDs herself as 'Maria Fernanda Garcia Alvarez.' Karen was killed by a different group at a different time and identified herself in her own pre-execution video.
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Re: Woman Executed by Narco Gang

I've probably watched the vid about 40 times now and compared it to six other beheading vids looking for comparable body language, sound, etc.

After a couple of days to review it carefully I am fairly inclined to opine at this point that the video is real. There are still some red flags, but I feel pretty confidant.

The cadence and volume of her screaming changes to the weak and expected gurgle right around 1:57. In some I've seen, that point was reached within seconds, but in others it has taken longer. In this case I think it was likely a combination of a dullish knife and cutting the wrong point. Blood is definitely visible by about 1:57 and was likely just blocked by her hair prior to that.

The blood would be easier to detect if the resolution of the vid were higher. It's just tough to get fine detail with all of the artifacts inherent in a low-res phone cam like this.

Same thing applies to the urine. Upon my initial viewing or two, I was fairly certain that she never lost bladder control, which would be very odd in a beheading like this. I've never seen a beheading involving a woman where she didn't urinate herself during the process and that sort of reaction would be abundantly expected in one as long and torturous as this. Its absence was very conspicuous to me and cast a lot of doubt on the vid's authenticity.

After several people posted here or contacted me specifically and said that they saw urine, I took a few more runs at it and decided I agree. The diffused lighting through the trees and the low resolution made a lot of shifting shadow, but partway through the vid (first especially noticeable right around 1:50 and then strongly again around 2:07 when she thrashes around), there's a clearly obvious dark stain in her crotch and running partway down her right thigh. When she shifts, it moves independently of the tree shadows and the shadows of the two executioners. If we had HD pics to go along with the vid, I think it'd be clear as day. The quality of the camera just makes it a little subtle. But it's there and it is definitive.

So between the vocal modulation, cadence, low-res blood obscured by the hair, lack of potential motive for fakery, and peri-mortem bladder evacuation, I'm saying Real Deal on this one.
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Re: Woman Executed by Narco Gang

I´ve seen some beheading videos and besides the already mentioned stuff, I would add that when they stabbed her in the neck I kinda expected a jump or something like that. On other videos, even when the head is almost fully chopped when they hit the neck, the body jumps in a nervous reflex (I guess thats the reason) but she didn´t so I´m gonna say Fake this time.
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Re: Woman Executed by Narco Gang

poor girl..
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Interesting vid. I have a few concerns about authenticity. Not calling 'fake', but there's some suspicious shit going on here. I'm unsure as to why her face was blocked the entire time once the cutting started. That virtually never happens in these beheadings. They almost always grab by the hair or the back of the head with the express purpose of making sure the face is clear for the 'warning' video. I'm also a bit troubled that she continued to give such loud, full-throated screams even after her neck was opened for a full minute. Even in the slow, clumsy beheadings we've seen, the screaming is quickly replaced by a muffled whimper and a lot of gurgling. But as late as the two-minute mark on this one she was still vocalizing full, loud screams...any time his hand slipped off of her mouth, that is. Further, the modulation and cadence of her screaming did not alter at all when he changed tack partway through and the -jammed- the knife into her throat rather than sawed it.

There was also very very little blood. he stuck her several times in the gut with that knife and only a small dark spot appeared with one of the blows. No spread, no trickle, no additional pattern of staining at all. I mean...I don't care how dull that knife was, I bleed more if I cut myself shaving than this chick did after getting stabbed in the belly several times. Very little on her upper shirt either. Or on the ground. Or even on the cutter's gloves after he was practically -digging- on her throat.

I dunno. like I said, aspects of it certainly appear to be real. But a -lot- about it gives me concern. I'll feel better if I see it come across any of my news or social media feeds.

Good find regardless. Just...not sure it's legit. I'll see if I can find any details.
My thoughts exactly
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Re: Woman Executed by Narco Gang

Why the fuck did this get a sticky?
There's no blood, no beheading and no gore at all ffs.

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Why the fuck did this get a sticky?
There's no blood, no beheading and no gore at all ffs.

Soon enough we gonna make sticky Instagram food pictures!
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Re: Woman Executed by Narco Gang

Why the fuck did this get a sticky?
There's no blood, no beheading and no gore at all ffs.
Female executions are exceedingly rare, exceedingly popular, and the video is contentious. This is a DEATH forum, not a GORE forum. Relax.
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