[Mr.Angel]

Originally Posted by shoelessjojackson ↗

Sure, he was murdered. But was it justified?

Were about to found out. Tell you what...this shit won't be going unaccounted for....that is for sure.

[Killgaad]

Originally Posted by Tyrantus ↗

Fret not, the comment wasn't directed at you.

While your posts are a little...aggressive in nature, your arguments are based on reality, not delusion like the couple of people my post was directed at.

My apologies, I am grateful for your clarification—it is certainly not my intent to be aggressive, and I regret it if it comes across that way—it's just that I am a passionate writer who literally gets off on oratory and rhetoric, as it was understood and practiced by the ancient Greeks, for example. The expletives are only coming forth in the knee-jerk manifestation of a somewhat heavy and pungent dab of colorfulness (I admit it), but yet stem from genuine conviction and righteous anger, albeit with a tinge of bipolar, lol.

Respect to you and regards.

[Killgaad]

Originally Posted by shoelessjojackson ↗

Far from it. He’s a gay man who just happens to like Blacks. Very common these days since most social classes these days have no prominent leadership these days.

Look, I realize that Kiel needs to feel opprobrium and be chastised and castigated for his evil mind... and while I support you in your natural desire to do so—which I share vehemently btw—by exposing the fact that he is profoundly intellectually and morally bankrupt—more than deserving of our scorn as the reprobate he is... but yet, what does gayness or liking blacks, or both, have to do with his obvious mental derangement and terroristic statements?
I simply cannot agree that somehow, accordimg to what you are implying, his malignant pathology stems from or is related in any way to any purported gayness or love of black people.
I, for one, think judicious reasoning ought to trump all things at all times, but especially when we're discussing and dealing with such potentially inflammatory issues as race and violence.

Regards.

[Killgaad]

typo: "according to"

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So in the interest of steering this back to a reasoned discussion, a few things:

I finally waded through the nonsense to try and find some information. Here's the most important bit of info:

- The original DA found no reason to indict the killers, and in his letter outlined a few reasons why, the most important of which is the statement that video footage exists showing Arbery burglarizing a home immediately before the incident.

This piece of info has gone almost completely ignored by the mainstream media, and I'm sure we can all guess why.

Thing is, this will end up being the crux of the entire case. If that video does exist, I am pretty sure the defendents will get off with little to no real penalty, and all hell will break loose.

If the video doesn't exist, they'll get the book thrown at them and the previous DA likely will as well.

Unfortunately, because of the culture we live in, none of the information will matter because everybody had their mind made up one way or another before they even watched the video.

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In case anyone's curious, here's the video in question. https://www.ajc.com/news/surveillanc...XkbkKeXrCFBTK/

Can't really see shit IMO. Shrug.

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Considering that burglary is entering a premise with the intent to commit a crime, I'm not sure how you can prove that with a video of someone entering an empty house for a few minutes and then leaving.

Obv it's suspicious, but the DA's line is technically wrong.

If there's no other evidence that he committed burglary other than "we saw a black dude go into an empty house and then run off" I'm not sure if that will be considered probable cause to attempt a citizens arrest (even if that's legal).

Anecdotal testimony from the suspects will be used to polish this video into something that resembles probable cause, I don't know if that'll work. My gut says it won't.

It's definitely one of those grey areas where the local good ol' boys just say "eh, whatever, no big loss wink wink" but a real legal case will find differently.

Kind of an interesting legal case, IMO.

[gimlet]

Man of color is out for a jog and goes into a house under construction to see if he wants to buy it and live there. Uniquely racist American South whites are outraged a colored would think about moving into their neighborhood and decide to drag him to death behind their pick'em up trucks. Uneducated whites realize they forgot their colored dragging chain, so they reach for their shotguns off their "Easy Rider" shotgun racks. Man of color realizes he is about to be lynched and quickly decides to go down fighting, rushing the nearest shotgun toting Southerner...

[Killgaad]

You sure make a lot of assumptions—all of them unproven—the latter even inflammatory, while the former, dubiously to the benefit of only one party involved in the scuffle. Since you are giddy with assumptions, let me give you this hypothetical: What if he was a child predator, looking for children to abduct and drag them into that vacant house? Such things do happen, you know... Now I'm not saying he was, because I have no such evidence, and in America, people are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. But you see, while many things are equally possible in the realm of the hypothetical, and as such, it is only fair and logical to give both parties the benefit of the doubt. Do I believe the men with guns look like rednecks who might be capable of something nefarious? Sure, but looks are deceiving, that is why facts and evidence should matter above all things.
Now if these men were supposedly intent on murdering him from the outset, as you assume without any evidence—then wouldn't they rather have shot at him from some hiding place, from a safe distance, maybe with a scope, instead of going through all this trouble exposing themselves, their identity and even documenting the incident?
I think they were just stupid, possibly still thinking he was police again, but did not have murder as a motive. Why would he risk his life for a stranger?
Now did the man who got killed have perhaps more than enough reason to freak out and snap into some uncontrolled last-resort fight-or-flight response?
Of course, but unfortunately it didn't do him any good, did it?
He would've been better off running towards that line of trees on either side, or towards houses with people inside who could've called 911—as, contrary to what reverse-racists believe, whites or any other group are not monolithic and do not necessarily believe the same things. Only uneducated and unintelligent people think simplistically and generalize to such a degree.
Think of the flip side of this unfelicitous coin: What choice did the guy with the long gun have, once he ran towards him with such intent, and began fighting for the weapon? What would you have done? Would you have given him the gun? He had a family too, you know, and therefore what the purported jogger did was incredibly stupid.
I, personally, would've taken my chances towards the trees, them hillbillies-looking dudes were heavier anyway, and it is very doubtful they would've been able to catch up to him.
In conclusion, race-baiting assumptions only divide, not resolve any racial unease and discord.
All of them made the wrong choices that day—and that is why, sadly, it ended in the death of one of the protagonists.

P.S. To tell you the truth, my personal opinion... there is something off about the way he "jogged". Joggers don't move like that. If he was able to dash that fast around the truck, then he would've jogged as if to exercise, with more gusto, but I personally think he was simply casing houses—for whatever reason, it can't be proven. Yet.

[pokerplay]

Well, there he is on video, robbing houses. Now what? Want to back track on those fucked out assumptions that white people are just racists hunting down innocent jogging black people? Thought not. Shame he threw his life away and shame even now agendas will drive how the facts are interpreted. If his family had any integrity left, they would use this as an opportunity to cool racial tensions, admit their son was wrong, and encourage other young people not to make the same mistakes.