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#211
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12-10-2024, 02:12 AM
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Re: UnitedHealthcare CEO Assassination
I'm glad you qualified it with "allegedly". I have my doubts about its legitimacy because his family wouldn't need to worry about their deductible.
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#213
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12-10-2024, 04:16 AM
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Re: UnitedHealthcare CEO Assassination
Good find, whether authentic or not, it at least gives a potential starting point. Maybe an adrenaline dump, but after that shooting he seemed to run off fairly well for someone with chronic back pain. Again, adrenaline dumps and a unique situation may have pushed that to the side. Additionally it sounds like he came from a pretty wealthy family so to your point about the deductibles, probably a non issue. Hopefully we will learn more in the coming days. |
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#214
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12-10-2024, 04:44 AM
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Re: UnitedHealthcare CEO Assassination
Really surprised with all his planning, he was found with fake I.D's and a gun. I really thought he left the country but I stand corrected. IF that is his manifesto then I see why he was/is so angry. I'm really interested to see this play out. |
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#215
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12-10-2024, 09:42 AM
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Re: UnitedHealthcare CEO Assassination
Correct. Had he prepared his gun wouldn't have malfunctioned that much though I can't fault his malfunction clearance. I thought he was an amateur from the repeat failures for the same reason-this setup was clearly not tested. If true, and the gun was 3D printed, then testing is especially important. I only browse a subReddit for such and malfunctions are the rule. But in short, his gear wasn't vetted and a pro would know their tools work. |
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#216
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12-10-2024, 10:09 AM
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Re: UnitedHealthcare CEO Assassination
Maybe book smart but not street smart. His weapon setup (particularly the suppressor as using them with pistols is somewhat atypical outside of range fun; they're mostly used on rifles) and clothing he wore (unique, especially the backpack/sack), and location (high levels of video surveillance), made him fairly easy to pick out and suggested he hadn't really thought about how to get away. Then again, as most videos on this site show, most don't and in fact, film their crimes. He also labelled the shell casings according to that source, so again, not trying to blend in but rather stand out. This source suggests he used a Faraday bag (they call it a case) of sorts which is quite rare to see in a homicide case, but effective if the bag/case actually works. But you have to test it ahead of time and this wouldn't undo the other, unique evidence he left behind. Allegedly. It's very hard to do what he did where he did (surveillance) and to evade police if they actually want to look for you. And they would given the victim. This is fairly new but I suspect he didn't hide his digital footprint all that well either. I suspect he had a normal cell phone and used Google services a lot despite his computer science background but I could be wrong about that. He did text his friends and texts and even, arguably, RCS are subject to LE without a subpoena from cell providers. It seems like he was quiet on his intentions, so far as not telling family and friends about them via text. His social media accounts being rummaged through might be interesting. Thanks to the alleged manifesto (link wouldn't load for me but the user posted the content, thankfully) he clearly didn't care what happened to him given his mother's deterioration, though its legitimacy has been reasonably questioned (mainly the ~6k deductible). TLDR: best way to delay prosecution/evade a crime is to not have unique identifiers tie you to it (e.g. no 3d printed guns, suppressors, unusual clothing, high levels of surveillance, cell phone data, etc.) and also not have a very public victim. Everyone could benefit from more digital privacy though, especially those of us on here. |
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#217
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12-10-2024, 11:44 AM
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Re: UnitedHealthcare CEO Assassination
I respectfully disagree. Had he not dropped his mask at the hostel and stayed on the bike instead of taking a cab, he would still be roaming free. What's going to seal his fate is the fake ID because it definitively connects him to the hostel. If the names on his other fake ID's were different, it was a huge mistake to hold onto it. If he had been caught with only the weapon, it would be conceivable that his lawyers could raise reasonable doubt and provide an opening for jury nullification. This is especially true if the ballistics tests were not conclusive. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if turns out that he used a different weapon. |
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#218
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12-10-2024, 12:35 PM
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Re: UnitedHealthcare CEO Assassination
Chronic pain, in yourself or seeing a loved one dealing with it can drive you to the edge. More info out about him today - he really changed after 2022, been dark for 6 months and emerged to do this. Of course some fat cat CEO gives zero shits about anyone else but himself. This young man had access to good care based on his family alone, and still got to this point because of insurance shenanigans. |