[Yanni]

Originally Posted by William May ↗

I was kind of hoping for the opposite.

The Russians killed 10 million Ukrainians during the 1920's and 1930's. That's why they greeted the Nazis as "Liberators". Unfortunately, the Germans were too stupid to realize their incredible good luck, started acting like assholes, and the Ukrainians hated them as much as they hated the Russians.

Russia has NO LINK to Ukraine, other than as an invader. The Ukrainians wanted the Russians OUT after World War One, but didn't have the muscle. The Ukrainians wanted them OUT when the Berlin wall collapsed, and were successful for a time. But the Russians moved back in.

My personal hope is that anyone showing pro-Russian activities be arrested and deported back to Russia.

I fervently hope any invasion of Ukraine by Russia becomes a blood bath for Russia, and that Ukrainians begin an active movement in currently occupied Ukraine, to throw the Russians out.

If I was Ukrainian, and found out a pro-Russian lived next door, I would kill them as an act of patriotism.

Anyone in Ukraine who likes Russia, should pack their shit up and leave, back to the land they say they love.

UKRAINE is NOT RUSSIAN!
NEVER HAS BEEN!
Hopefully NEVER WILL BE!

um not exactly.


"...Why is Ukraine so important to Russia?The two neighboring countries have been intertwined for over 1,000 years of tumultuous history. Today, Ukraine is one of Russia's biggest markets for natural gas exports, a crucial transit route to the rest of Europe, and home to an estimated 7.5 million ethnic Russians — who mostly live in eastern Ukraine and the southern region of Crimea. (All told, about 25 percent of Ukraine's 46 million people claim Russian as their mother tongue.) Russia lacks natural borders like rivers and mountains along its western frontier, so "its leaders have traditionally seen the maintenance of a sphere of influence over the countries around it as source of security," said David Clark, chairman of the Russia Foundation, a think tank. That's especially true of Ukraine, which Russia regards as its little brother. "Everybody knows that Ukrainians are Russians," said Kremlin adviser Sergei Markov. "Except for the Galicians" — a reference to the Ukrainian-speaking residents of western Ukraine.

Why do Russians see Ukraine as theirs? It's partly because both nations trace their roots back to the first East Slavic state, Kievan Rus, which stretched from the Baltic to the Black Sea from the 9th century to the mid-13th century. The kingdom converted to Eastern Orthodox Christianity in 988, laying the foundation of the modern Russian church.
But in the 13th century Kiev was devastated by Mongol invaders, and power shifted north to a small Rus trading outpost called Moscow.

What happened to Ukraine after Kievan Rus fell? Its territory was carved up by competing powers, who prized the fertile plains and rich, dark soil that later earned Ukraine the nickname "the breadbasket of Europe." Catholic Poland and Lithuania dominated the country for hundreds of years, but by the end of the 18th century Imperial Russia had grabbed most of Ukraine, except for Galicia, which was controlled by the Austro-Hungarian Empire. The czars referred to their dominion as "little Russia" and tried to crush surging Ukrainian nationalism in the 1840s, banning the use of the Ukrainian language in schools.

How did Ukraine break away? The first independent Ukrainian state was declared in Kiev in 1917, following the collapse of the Russian and Austro-Hungarian empires at the end of World War I. That independence was short-lived. The new country was invaded by Poland, and fought over by forces loyal to the czar and Moscow's new Bolshevik government, which took power in Russia's 1918 revolution. By the time Ukraine was incorporated into the Soviet Union in 1922, its economy was in tatters and its populace starving. Worse was to come. When Ukrainian peasants refused to join collective farms in the 1930s, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin orchestrated mass executions and a famine that killed up to 10 million people. Afterward, Stalin imported millions of Russians and other Soviet citizens to help repopulate the coal- and iron-ore-rich east. This mass migration, said former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Steven Pifer, helps explain why "the sense of Ukrainian nationalism is not as deep in the east as it is in the west."

[mothmon]

Crazy cunt. Why cant't they just put the barrel in their own mouths when they feel the urge to commit mass murder instead of taking it out on innocents?!

[River]

What ever his motives were I hope they were worth it. He's going to spend the rest of his life in Ukrainian prison now. And if you don't know what that's like I suggest you search on Black Dolphin on YouTube. That's a Russian maximum security prison, situated in a forrest the size of Germany.

And there's no difference between prison life in Russia or Ukraine.

[icecreamchamp]

He didn't just kill 5 soldiers, he killed their militaries moral. Damn Ukraine can't catch a break.

[-NocturnalPulse-]

He should get death by firing squad.

[Budd Dwyer]

Dnipro, home of the subhumans, Dnipropetrovsk maniacs, anyone?
Fucker is dead in military prison, that's why he wanted the "normal" pre-trial one
Still no real reason for his actions, hang him I'd say

[icehole]

Originally Posted by Budd Dwyer ↗

Dnipro, home of the subhumans, Dnipropetrovsk maniacs, anyone?
Fucker is dead in military prison, that's why he wanted the "normal" pre-trial one
Still no real reason for his actions, hang him I'd say

wow, so it's the home of the 3G1H fuckers
I only realized this when you mention it

[Spiffyfable]

I was Expecting an excuse to start a War or something

[ori01]

Unbileavable,those russian-heads. All look the same, like they made in a russian-head machine...
You have see one,you have see all...

[daveywavey10]

Originally Posted by Yanni ↗

um not exactly.


"...Why is Ukraine so important to Russia?The two neighboring countries have been intertwined for over 1,000 years of tumultuous history. Today, Ukraine is one of Russia's biggest markets for natural gas exports, a crucial transit route to the rest of Europe, and home to an estimated 7.5 million ethnic Russians — who mostly live in eastern Ukraine and the southern region of Crimea. (All told, about 25 percent of Ukraine's 46 million people claim Russian as their mother tongue.) Russia lacks natural borders like rivers and mountains along its western frontier, so "its leaders have traditionally seen the maintenance of a sphere of influence over the countries around it as source of security," said David Clark, chairman of the Russia Foundation, a think tank. That's especially true of Ukraine, which Russia regards as its little brother. "Everybody knows that Ukrainians are Russians," said Kremlin adviser Sergei Markov. "Except for the Galicians" — a reference to the Ukrainian-speaking residents of western Ukraine.

Why do Russians see Ukraine as theirs? It's partly because both nations trace their roots back to the first East Slavic state, Kievan Rus, which stretched from the Baltic to the Black Sea from the 9th century to the mid-13th century. The kingdom converted to Eastern Orthodox Christianity in 988, laying the foundation of the modern Russian church.
But in the 13th century Kiev was devastated by Mongol invaders, and power shifted north to a small Rus trading outpost called Moscow.

What happened to Ukraine after Kievan Rus fell? Its territory was carved up by competing powers, who prized the fertile plains and rich, dark soil that later earned Ukraine the nickname "the breadbasket of Europe." Catholic Poland and Lithuania dominated the country for hundreds of years, but by the end of the 18th century Imperial Russia had grabbed most of Ukraine, except for Galicia, which was controlled by the Austro-Hungarian Empire. The czars referred to their dominion as "little Russia" and tried to crush surging Ukrainian nationalism in the 1840s, banning the use of the Ukrainian language in schools.

How did Ukraine break away? The first independent Ukrainian state was declared in Kiev in 1917, following the collapse of the Russian and Austro-Hungarian empires at the end of World War I. That independence was short-lived. The new country was invaded by Poland, and fought over by forces loyal to the czar and Moscow's new Bolshevik government, which took power in Russia's 1918 revolution. By the time Ukraine was incorporated into the Soviet Union in 1922, its economy was in tatters and its populace starving. Worse was to come. When Ukrainian peasants refused to join collective farms in the 1930s, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin orchestrated mass executions and a famine that killed up to 10 million people. Afterward, Stalin imported millions of Russians and other Soviet citizens to help repopulate the coal- and iron-ore-rich east. This mass migration, said former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Steven Pifer, helps explain why "the sense of Ukrainian nationalism is not as deep in the east as it is in the west."

Biden wants to defend Ukraine because of Hunter and his own business interests there along with the other democrat freaks