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The reason things like this keep happening is cos third world people don't belong in first world countries, they are putting everyone at risk.

Even if the workers came here illegally someone decided to skimp on the basics. Doesn’t lesson the value of anyone’s life.

I’d be interested to know if the company or individuals get charged.

This is like hiring someone to change your oil while your car is propped up on a stick.
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I just read this in the news as I live here, this scaffolding thing keeps happening here too
Agreed. I live 2 towns over and know exactly what you are talking about.
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OSHA gonna have a field day with this one.
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The migrant impact on US construction is crazy. Communication is funneled through a handful of jobsite translators, so owners, architects, engineers and construction managers, who carry the project responsibility and liability, do not actually know what is being said on the jobsite. That, and the dated 3rd world practices, and the general lack of job knowledge by the work force. Not good. Low bid rules in construction, so there is no fix on the horizon.
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I live right outside of Charlotte , wow
I could possibly know someone who knows them
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Agreed. I live 2 towns over and know exactly what you are talking about.
What town ? Im in KAP
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The guy to the far right looked like someone stuffed a scarecrow His body looks weird from that angle.
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Another angle:
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redditsave.com_collapsed_scaffold_accident_in_charlotte_nc-3o57isjupp9a1.mp4
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yeah it fucked up. Sorry.

I found it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/TerrifyingA..._charlotte_nc/
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Re: ~Scaffold Collapses In Charlotte North Carolina~

The migrant impact on US construction is crazy. Communication is funneled through a handful of jobsite translators, so owners, architects, engineers and construction managers, who carry the project responsibility and liability, do not actually know what is being said on the jobsite. That, and the dated 3rd world practices, and the general lack of job knowledge by the work force. Not good. Low bid rules in construction, so there is no fix on the horizon.
Low bid does not always rule in construction, especially in commercial construction. Bid proposals for projects over a certain dollar amount are usually put together by project managers who have long term relationships with the companies utilizing their services, and I have seen several lowballers get passed over due to this, questionable quality or track record, and many other factors.

As for the communication issue, I believe you're overstating it. The vast majority of construction companies, again, especially those who work on commercial projects, are aware that a significant segment of their workforce is ESL and rely on their foremen and other leadership (including inspectors) to bridge any critical gaps there may be. This has been the standard for decades - it's not some new epidemic of migrant workers fucking everything up because they don't speak much if any English. If anything, communication has improved thanks to Google Translate and continuously updated industry standards.

If there's a breakdown, it's probably on the accountability side. The workers in the video seemed to be aware their dead coworkers were using shoddy shit, which means either a foreman among them knew about it as well and allowed it to happen or they "employed third world practices" on their own. In any case, there will be an investigation and appropriate action taken. It looks like they're in the city, and government officials take that shit very seriously. Depending on how red the town is will affect how bad the consequences are. In a state that values corporate rights over individual rights, they'll probably get a slap on the wrist. If I lived there, I'd be more familiar with their politics.

Where I do agree with you is about poor training and sketchy knowledge. The destruction of unions has contributed greatly to this, as well as, of course, shady white business owners hiring migrants with questionable skill sets. But again, this does not, in my experience, tend to be the case with large commercial projects, which have much more at stake and are therefore usually more cautious.
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