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04-19-2020, 10:45 AM
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Re: Russia - Raging Fire Traps Man on His Balcony
If I understand the article correctly, that one engine crew was alone at the fire prior to and during the video. He wasn't on the patio when they arrived. They couldn't get the fire truck closer to the building due to trees. They go around to the front door to attempt a search and rescue. They get told he is on the balcony (maybe by the fire engine driver since it is the drivers job to stay with the apparatus to engage the pump and extend the aerial ladder). They have to go all the way around back to the truck to be able to get up the ladder and to man a hose line. It is too late by then. I don't know if Russian fire engines have a booster tank full of water or what we call deck guns on American fire apparatus. It is a pre-plumbed discharge with a large bore nozzle that is kept attached to the fire engine in most cases. It is used in defensive operations (surround and drown the fire without going in right away due to a large volume of fire or a building that is structurally compromised). The deck gun is also used to protect exposures, which are the buildings next to the one on fire. The deck gun can also be used in what is called a transitional attack. Since it is pre-plumbed, it can rapidly put in use to dump the tank water on the engine to quickly knock down a large volume of fire so hose teams can enter the building to finish extinguishment. Most deck guns can be removed to be set up on the ground closer to the fire if there isn't access to get the fire truck closer. Now most departments use a special nozzle called a Blitz Fire in addition to the deck gun. Pretty cool ground monitor type nozzle that is set and forget. It is attached to a large diameter hose line and set on the ground. Once set and turned on, it autonomously operates. If it senses it is losing grip with the ground and about to start thrashing around like a python on hot coals, it shuts itself down with a mechanical safety system. One model even sweeps side to side. The work great for attached garages that are on fire. It knocks down the fire through the garage door opening and keeps it in check while hand lines are put into operation from inside the house into the garage. What is missing in this video is the thick acrid black smoke. Thick black smoke means the fire isn't getting enough oxygen. The fire is getting plenty of oxygen in this fire. I wonder if the firefighters forced open the front door but didn't shut it when they had to abandon the attack through the front door to save him off the patio. Not shutting the door allowed for the fire to get the oxygen it needed. Related, should your house or apartment catch fire, shut, but dont lock doors, behind you. It prevents the fire from getting enough oxygen and traps smoke and toxic gasses. In the U.S. and Europe, there are standards for sheet rock to meet for how long they can go before failing in a fire. Most interior doors have a one hour fire rating or better. Remember to change your smoke detector batteries twice a year unless it is one of those smoke detectors that are sealed and work for five or ten years on the original battery. The sealed detectors get throw away after the five or ten years. Exchangeable battery smoke detectors still need to be replaced every ten years to ensure adequate performance. Thank you for coming to my Tedtalk. |
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04-19-2020, 10:51 AM
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Re: Russia - Raging Fire Traps Man on His Balcony
That is more for carbon monoxide exposure inside a house or garage due to leaving a car running in the garage with the garage door shut or something like a water heater giving off CO into the house. He would have died from thermal burns to his airway or suffocation due to his face melting shut, blocking his mouth and nose. Without any burns on his head, he still isn't surviving due to infections and hypothermia from burns on the rest of him. People that normally survive with horrible disfiguring scars are during flash fires that go out quickly. This poor bastard got cooked all the way through from that patio blowtorch. |
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04-20-2020, 11:37 AM
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Re: Russia - Raging Fire Traps Man on His Balcony
Nowhere to go? The dude wasn’t on the 110th floor of the WTC, he was on the 2nd floor of a shitty apartment building, genius. It would likely hurt to jump, and he probably would have broken a few bones, but the outcome would have most certainly been better than having 3rd and 4th degree burns and your skin dripping off the bone. Like it’s not even a question, the best course of action in this particular event would have been to jump. Totally survivable.
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