[kustom80]

Originally Posted by Sinil ↗

He is being ridiculously racist but can I point something out. The US population has a minority of black citizens. There are approximately 5.8 times more white people than black people.

This means for the blacks to be (AT Least) as violent, in terms of say cross race homicides, as white people. They need to kill 6 white people for every 1 black person killed by a white person.

If you look here (in 2018) it’s maybe 2 to 1..

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ta-table-6.xls

Simply put more white people are killed because there are more of us. Because there are fewer blacks each death is more impactful to that small population.

What would you do if every time your race killed someone 6 of your race was killed? This is just what I noticed in the graphs. Correct me if I am mistaken.

Despite only being 13% of the US population, blacks commit at least 50% of all crime.

[Mongolian60]

Well here something after all is said and done in Philadelphia some poor 19 yr old kid died for no reason. I don’t care if he was black or whatever color. He is still dead for no reason. Shoot the guy who started got shot and he survived. This guy got shot he didn’t even do anything.

[Sinil]

Originally Posted by kustom80 ↗

Despite only being 13% of the US population, blacks commit at least 50% of all crime.

Can I have the link (Source) for that statistic. I believe you. I like to catalog my sources for future debates, and that statement, if true, is one I need to keep and remember.


EDIT: (Nevermind, kustom80, I got you man. I did some research and found it. Thanks for pointing that out!)

It’s true that around 13% of Americans are black, according to the latest estimates from the US Census Bureau.

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52% of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008.

Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded.

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38% of murders, compared to 31.1% for whites.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5% of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.

Clearly, these figures are problematic. We’re talking about arrests not convictions, and high black arrest rates could be taken as evidence that the police are RACIST.

But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.

This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.

So why are black offenders – and young black men in particular – over-represented in America’s crime statistics?

Judging from the comments on this forum, on could speculate any number of issues on this, from unapologetic racism to militant refusal to blame the problem on anything but historic white racism.

Some criminologists think we could be simply confusing race for poverty or inequality: black people tend to offend more because they tend to be more disadvantaged, living in poorer urban areas with less access to public services, and so on.

If you control for deprivation, people of different races ought to be similarly predisposed to commit crime. Or that’s the theory, at least.

There is a lot of research in this area, but a lot of it is contradictory.

This study of violent crime in deprived neighbourhoods in Cleveland, Ohio, found that reductions in poverty led to reductions in the crime rate in exactly the same way in predominantly black and white areas, suggesting poverty, not race, is the biggest factor.

Other studies get different results.

All sociologists have suffered from the same basic problem: finding urban white communities that are as disadvantaged as the poorest black neighbourhoods, so that you can get a fair comparison.

Some thinkers play down the importance of poverty in favour of the “violent subculture theory”.

This is the idea that some black communities, for some reason, have developed cultural values that are more tolerant of crime and violence.

While it would be naïve to suggest that there is no racism in the US criminal justice system, victim reports don’t support the idea that this is because of mass discrimination.

Higher poverty rates among various urban black communities might explain the difference in crime rates, although the evidence is mixed.

There are few simple answers and links between crime and race are likely to remain the subject of bitter argument. So good luck. I got no where really...lol

[HeyJealousy]

Hot damn. Very painful way to go, slowly bleeding to death on the street from a GSW.

I know the saying: live by the gun, die by the gun. In some of those blighted inner-city neighborhoods, untimely death is every bit as likely as marriage. This is even the case in a few select neighborhoods in Little Rock (hardly Philly or Detroit), where I live.

However, unless you have personally survived a GSW before, you don't know what it feels like. I haven't felt it, but I have seen it. Depending on the caliber of the weapon used, it can either feel like hell or hell on steroids.

[Sinil]

Originally Posted by HeyJealousy ↗

However, unless you have personally survived a GSW before, you don't know what it feels like. I haven't felt it, but I have seen it. Depending on the caliber of the weapon used, it can either feel like hell or hell on steroids.

TBH, it's probably less painful than you're imagining Jealousy. His body was FULL of adrenaline. As a result he is experiencing far less pain than an average human. Which normally would allow him to continue to run away (as he does with the first shot that hits him). Hemorrhagic (Hypovolemic) Shock is also setting in as he is bleeding out on the street, causing him to be confused and eventually lose consciousness.

TLDR: He is screaming like that because he is scared of dying. I see it all the time. People don't scream as loud for pain. They scream loud in fear.

[Wershel]

Originally Posted by Sinil ↗

Can I have the link (Source) for that statistic. I believe you. I like to catalog my sources for future debates, and that statement, if true, is one I need to keep and remember.


EDIT: (Nevermind, kustom80, I got you man. I did some research and found it. Thanks for pointing that out!)

It’s true that around 13% of Americans are black, according to the latest estimates from the US Census Bureau.

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52% of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008.

Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded.

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38% of murders, compared to 31.1% for whites.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5% of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.

Clearly, these figures are problematic. We’re talking about arrests not convictions, and high black arrest rates could be taken as evidence that the police are RACIST.

But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.

This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.

So why are black offenders – and young black men in particular – over-represented in America’s crime statistics?

Judging from the comments on this forum, on could speculate any number of issues on this, from unapologetic racism to militant refusal to blame the problem on anything but historic white racism.

Some criminologists think we could be simply confusing race for poverty or inequality: black people tend to offend more because they tend to be more disadvantaged, living in poorer urban areas with less access to public services, and so on.

If you control for deprivation, people of different races ought to be similarly predisposed to commit crime. Or that’s the theory, at least.

There is a lot of research in this area, but a lot of it is contradictory.

This study of violent crime in deprived neighbourhoods in Cleveland, Ohio, found that reductions in poverty led to reductions in the crime rate in exactly the same way in predominantly black and white areas, suggesting poverty, not race, is the biggest factor.

Other studies get different results.

All sociologists have suffered from the same basic problem: finding urban white communities that are as disadvantaged as the poorest black neighbourhoods, so that you can get a fair comparison.

Some thinkers play down the importance of poverty in favour of the “violent subculture theory”.

This is the idea that some black communities, for some reason, have developed cultural values that are more tolerant of crime and violence.

While it would be naïve to suggest that there is no racism in the US criminal justice system, victim reports don’t support the idea that this is because of mass discrimination.

Higher poverty rates among various urban black communities might explain the difference in crime rates, although the evidence is mixed.

There are few simple answers and links between crime and race are likely to remain the subject of bitter argument. So good luck. I got no where really...lol

i think you believe youre alot smarter than you actually are

[cardsharksam]

We don't have black crime here in northern Ireland

[Sturrminator]

Originally Posted by minka1 ↗

I am so fucking sick of pieces of shit like you. Always making it seem like no other fucking race has psychos who kill over nothing and everything and in between!

Fuck you. Fuck every single fucking piece of shit who thinks like you. And all I have is the comfort that all of us, including pieces of shit like you, will meet death.

But I wish you nothing but the karma you deserve.

Fuckign acting like you fuckers don’t commit violent crimes EVERY SINGLE MOTHERFUCKKNG EVERLASTING DAY ON THIS EARTH! You fuckers rape babies. You rape people under the influence of drink/drugs. You shoot up mass groups of people for no fuckign reason. You kill your partners your babies your parents your whole motherfucking families!

You fucking privileged white assholes who are supposedly so fucking superior and yet a day doesn’t go by when y’all are committing heinous crimes!

But I never see any shit comments on all those videos of your white innocents committing crimes. Never see any accountability from you whites when we are bombarded with the violent crimes y’all commit.

My comfort is Karma.
Youll get what you deserve. That I fucking know. And in the mean time I am here to remind you that white people are even worse. I mean again. Makes no sense. Y’all so privileged. So superior. Y’all invented almost everything. (Y’all say this shit all the time)
But some reason you can’t help yourself but to commit crimes.
I was just watching an investigative program about a white theif at a home under construction, who was caught in the act by 2 white workers. He shot them dead. 2 more workers come back to the house, they are shot dead too.
Why the fuck do your people do this shit? So fucking superior!!!

I was with you until you started spewing your racist bullshit. You wanna play that game? Your people are a minority in this country yet commit the majority of the crimes. Every city that your people make up the majority of is guaranteed a crime ridden shit hole. Your people sit and suck on the public teet while the majority of white people work to pay for y’all to sit on your front stoop and smoke blunts. When y’all have kids the men bounce and you ladies pass the kids off to your grandmammys where they live until they end up in prison.

[Wershel]

Originally Posted by Sinil ↗

He is being ridiculously racist but can I point something out. The US population has a minority of black citizens. There are approximately 5.8 times more white people than black people.

This means for the blacks to be (AT Least) as violent, in terms of say cross race homicides, as white people. They need to kill 6 white people for every 1 black person killed by a white person.

If you look here (in 2018) it’s maybe 2 to 1..

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ta-table-6.xls

Simply put more white people are killed because there are more of us. Because there are fewer blacks each death is more impactful to that small population.

What would you do if every time your race killed someone 6 of your race was killed? This is just what I noticed in the graphs. Correct me if I am mistaken.

I do have to laugh at you if you consider what I've said ridiculously racist. Apparently you haven't met someone who really hates people based upon their race.

[soja]

Originally Posted by Wershel ↗

I do have to laugh at you if you consider what I've said ridiculously racist. Apparently you haven't met someone who really hates people based upon their race.

did you nazi the news? all white people everywhere are racists. and you should feel sorry and give all your money to the peoples of colors.

ur life on easy mode, bro. you deserve to suffer and die. please burn in hell.