[gatagato]

What's funny is that not even Nationsquid, the original uploader, is claiming that the video is legit.
Meanwhile, he's making money with the ads, and getting some attention that he would NOT normally get, and of course he disabled the comments to the vid, for SOME reason. Oh, he failed to tell us WHERE, WHEN and HOW he got the video which, according to Mollie Nelson, the widow of Robert Nelson, the owner of the news station, is being kept safe by a “very large law firm”, which hardly would share it on Youtube for the sake of it, mixed with some other random stuff.
So, who's claiming that the video is legit? You? PROVE IT. "Irresponsible" my ass, to claim that the video is legit when you don't even know where it originated, is irresponsible.
Find some proof and we'll remove the hoax label but don't tell us what to do and what not to do with the stuff that is posted here.

[dan-b]

Originally Posted by gatagato ↗

What's funny is that not even Nationsquid, the original uploader, is claiming that the video is legit.
Meanwhile, he's making money with the ads, and getting some attention that he would NOT normally get, and of course he disabled the comments to the vid, for SOME reason. Oh, he failed to tell us WHERE, WHEN and HOW he got the video which, according to Mollie Nelson, the widow of Robert Nelson, the owner of the news station, is being kept safe by a “very large law firm”, which hardly would share it on Youtube for the sake of it, mixed with some other random stuff.
So, who's claiming that the video is legit? You? PROVE IT. "Irresponsible" my ass, to claim that the video is legit when you don't even know where it originated, is irresponsible.
Find some proof and we'll remove the hoax label but don't tell us what to do and what not to do with the stuff that is posted here.

Did you take my comment as a personal insult or something, because you seem a little angry? I'm just trying to get some critical dialogue going rather than the binary "FAKE"/"REAL" narrative. I will replace the word "irresponsible" with "premature".

Do you think the money the YouTuber is making from ad revenune outweighs the capital cost it would have taken to recreate the studio conditions, including very accurate lighting rigging?

Comments are not disabled on the Freaky 5 video - I left three this morning. You're assuming Mollie Nelson's footage is the only footage - we can't be sure of that. There have been persistent claims from people saying they think they saw the footage in the 90s. I've mentioned this before and have posted links.

Surely including the footage at the end of a compilation video points away from a hoax? They'd surely get more views with it on a single video stating "Chubbuck footage finally revealed!" or something. Why the lack of promotion if it's a hoax for financial gain? There could be legal reasons why Nation Squid won't reveal the source.

I'm not telling you what to do, I'm making a suggestion. Perhaps [possible hoax] would be better. But it's just a suggestion...

[gatagato]

Originally Posted by dan-b ↗

Did you take my comment as a personal insult or something, because you seem a little angry? I'm just trying to get some critical dialogue going rather than the binary "FAKE"/"REAL" narrative. I will replace the word "irresponsible" with "premature".

Do you think the money the YouTuber is making from ad revenune outweighs the capital cost it would have taken to recreate the studio conditions, including very accurate lighting rigging?

Comments are not disabled on the Freaky 5 video - I left three this morning. You're assuming Mollie Nelson's footage is the only footage - we can't be sure of that. There have been persistent claims from people saying they think they saw the footage in the 90s. I've mentioned this before and have posted links.

Surely including the footage at the end of a compilation video points away from a hoax? They'd surely get more views with it on a single video stating "Chubbuck footage finally revealed!" or something. Why the lack of promotion if it's a hoax for financial gain? There could be legal reasons why Nation Squid won't reveal the source.

I'm not telling you what to do, I'm making a suggestion. Perhaps [possible hoax] would be better. But it's just a suggestion...

Comments were disabled, then re-enabled, then.
Actually, I think that we need more members like you, as intelligent people are rare. But there are serious issues when it comes to dealing with videos like this one, since this is documentingreality.com, not documentingwhatmightberealornot.com.
Credibility is everything in this business, we simply cannot put our credibility in danger only because someone decided to upload some video on Youtube, and someone else believes that it's the real deal.
It does NOT work that way.
We need something MUCH different from someone who uploads a video coming from nowhere, then starts a discussion forum about it and fails to explain how the video originated, also because, in the best case, this can result in some crime-related thing, since the only one legally entitled to the possession of the clip stated clearly that it won't be released, so we might be in front of a STOLEN video, with all that this entails.

There's one thing that you can do: go to http://www.nationsquid.com/

and ask to the website owner (who is the original uploader) for all the informations that we need.
You have all that is needed to corner him for good.
In my opinion he won't reply, but it's worth an attempt: you can do something that many others can't, so DO IT.

[mothmon]

Originally Posted by dan-b ↗

If the tape itself has physically deteriorated then why wouldn't both the audio and visual be affected? Besides, although the audio is garbled it's pretty obvious what she's saying after you've listened a few times.

For someone to have recreated the lighting so accurately three obvious explanations follow:

1) Someone has gone to great trouble and expense to recreate the now defunct studio in order to reproduce the setting so accurately - with no obvious motive.

2) It's the real studio but someone with the foresight to see that this would be of huge public interest one day used an actress to recreate the scene soon after the actual suicide. Now, in 2017, they finally think the time is right to complete their masterful plan.

3) It's the actual suicide footage.

I know which I think is most likely.

I could have reproduced that TV news set & that sign perfectly in my high school art class back in the day . I just find it much less than a coincidence that this tape mysteriously pops up just when there's such a strong renewed public interest in her story because of the two major films recently released.

Boy, will you feel silly when this tape is finally debunked

[dan-b]

Originally Posted by mothmon ↗

I could have reproduced that TV news set & that sign perfectly in my high school art class back in the day . I just find it much less than a coincidence that this tape mysteriously pops up just when there's such a strong renewed public interest in her story because of the two major films recently released.

Boy, will you feel silly when this tape is finally debunked

I can assure you I won't feel silly at all. Your claim to being able to recreate the set accurately, including the lighting I keep referring to, has about as much value as uncritically yelling "FAKE".

However, if it is a hoax, I suppose there is a fourth possible explanation. It's a still of the actual set, and then an actress has been used to read the lines, shoot herself, etc., and then this has been superimposed over the original set image. Not sure how feasible this is, but it's another possibility.

[Steve]

Will we ever know if it's fake or not, that's what's going to bug me. If real the family may or should sue the fuck out of someone, if they don't I think fake, so many possibilities that us plebs aren't privy to.

[Zambini]

I don't see the fascination of finding it at all, really

Plenty of good suicides/ killings on DR already

But that's just me

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Zambini ↗

I don't see the fascination of finding it at all, really

Plenty of good suicides/ killings on DR already

But that's just me

It's like something you want but you know the odds are you will never get. The human psyche is an odd thing.

[diamount]

Come on guys, it's a complete fabrication. It's actually a decent one but the sound of her falling is straight from stocksounds.com.

[jimmywhite]

I'm thinking it's fake! I still have a vcr with tapes from the earily 80's that are terribly distorted, and they look, and play differently then that. I think this is a well produced replica, made with the intention of gettin paid for the so called holy grail!