[bassysmart]

Originally Posted by Baphomet67 ↗

The offender got what he wanted.
The cops once again used excessive force- i would have thought that this was in america.

It only takes 1 or 2 bullets to the legs or lower torso to demobilize a target.(call the ambulance get him the help he needed-make the arrest)
If they were aiming for the leg/lower torso then i could see them using as many shots as they wanted until the offender was demobilized. (more chance of living)

There were 4 kill shots at that close of range.
They were aiming for the head/upper torso.
Its not like he had a gun... it was a pair of scissors.
If he were armed with a firearm then shoot to kill.

I also like how it seems police everywhere make the kill and then say "drop it right now" or something like that after the offender is already dead or dying.
They shoot to kill not demobilize and apprehend on cases like these.
The offender knew what would happen and people like that take full advantage of the situation.
Cases like these are assisted suicide but they just will not admit it. If thats really the case then they should just offer it- feel like suicide? go to your local PD and have them put one in your skull.

If thats not whats really happening then the police need more training on how to apprehend suspects without deadly force who are not armed with a firearm.

With the greatest of respect, you are clearly an idiot who has never shot a firearm before!

Police are trained to stop the threat, the easiest way to do that is to shoot the largest part of the body, the centre of mass. As a by product of this, people often die as there are many vitals there.

In a stress situation its down to combat shooting, not marksmanship shooting, therefore police has a split second to assess a threat, formulate a plan - withdraw/spray/taser/firearm etc, and then carry out that plan based on all the factors.

Good luck trying to do that yourself!!!!

Run at a cop with a weapon, expect to get harmed! Cops don't go to work wanting to kill someone, its the LAST thing they want to do as they know there will be a massive inquest and spuds like you come up with their great ideas.

Sadly opinions are like arseholes, EVERYONE has one!

Rant over.

[zaphod6503]

The guy was a drug addict and had mental health issues. He had also served time in prison. Sadly in Australia if you have mental health issues there isn't much support as most of the psychiatric hospitals were shutdown decades ago.

As is always the case (in Australia) when confronted by someone with a weapon the police do not shoot to maim but will shoot for center of mass to bring down the offender as quickly as possibly so that they do not injure a policeman or member of the public.

There was also a case in Australia recently where an offender attacked a police officer with a samurai sword to his head. Obviously they couldn't bring down the guy fast enough. The police officers injuries were horrific but he survived.

[Oswald2001]

Originally Posted by zaphod6503 ↗

The guy was a drug addict and had mental health issues.

And he was clearly suicidal and got his Death Wish.

[Oswald2001]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

he looked like a charging bull

He charged like an armed bull at police officers with their guns already drawn because that was his best bet at Suicide By Cop.

He wanted to die and he wanted the cops to kill him.

And they did.








Hose down the pavement and get ready for open of business the next morning.

[wujuan]

Originally Posted by docfr8 ↗

He charged towards the officers after failed verbal commands to drop the weapon.. Fuck him with a smile and a vegamite sandwich...

thanks for that ear worm

[lutherieguy]

wtf.. how do you shoot a charging armed man in the legs with 100 percent certainty you won't be stabbed? If the guy is within 30 feet and your gun is not on him it is 50/50 that he is gonna make it to stab you. I have heard that same tired old fallacy for over 20 years from soccer moms and social justice warriors and all manner of ignorant cowards. There is a vid on here where a knife wielding suspect stabs a bunch of cops (one fatally IIRC) that were circling him in a large circle in a grassy area. They looked like they wanted to go easy because there were cameras present... and they got seriously fked up because they just didn't shoot a mad dog immediately. A lot of cops are gutless cowards, but a lot more are just good people doing a shitty shitty job with a bunch of cunty armchair quarterbacks wering Che Gueverra t-shirts standing there crying foul... Walk a mile in their shoes assholes

[AngelAssassin]

Originally Posted by Baphomet67 ↗

The offender got what he wanted.
The cops once again used excessive force- i would have thought that this was in america.

It only takes 1 or 2 bullets to the legs or lower torso to demobilize a target.(call the ambulance get him the help he needed-make the arrest)
If they were aiming for the leg/lower torso then i could see them using as many shots as they wanted until the offender was demobilized. (more chance of living)

There were 4 kill shots at that close of range.
They were aiming for the head/upper torso.
Its not like he had a gun... it was a pair of scissors.
If he were armed with a firearm then shoot to kill.

I also like how it seems police everywhere make the kill and then say "drop it right now" or something like that after the offender is already dead or dying.
They shoot to kill not demobilize and apprehend on cases like these.
The offender knew what would happen and people like that take full advantage of the situation.
Cases like these are assisted suicide but they just will not admit it. If thats really the case then they should just offer it- feel like suicide? go to your local PD and have them put one in your skull.

If thats not whats really happening then the police need more training on how to apprehend suspects without deadly force who are not armed with a firearm.

The bottom line is, people who charge at police are an immediate and imminent threat and there is no deciding which weapon to use or debate whether they have a second (or third) weapon on them. They need to be put down and put down NOW.

That said, they are not going to be shot in the leg or arm pretty much for the same reason, they are an immediate danger to the officers. Someone who's wounded and conscious is still just as much of a threat until they are secured and searched and relieved of each and every weapon.

It's a sad and unfortunate truth, one that's become more apparent with the escalation of 'suicide by cop'. It's also hard for most civilians to understand without being in their position, or knowledge of what these officers face each and every day.

[Sligkid]

Originally Posted by Baphomet67 ↗

The offender got what he wanted.
The cops once again used excessive force- i would have thought that this was in america.

It only takes 1 or 2 bullets to the legs or lower torso to demobilize a target.(call the ambulance get him the help he needed-make the arrest)
If they were aiming for the leg/lower torso then i could see them using as many shots as they wanted until the offender was demobilized. (more chance of living)

There were 4 kill shots at that close of range.
They were aiming for the head/upper torso.
Its not like he had a gun... it was a pair of scissors.
If he were armed with a firearm then shoot to kill.

I also like how it seems police everywhere make the kill and then say "drop it right now" or something like that after the offender is already dead or dying.
They shoot to kill not demobilize and apprehend on cases like these.
The offender knew what would happen and people like that take full advantage of the situation.
Cases like these are assisted suicide but they just will not admit it. If thats really the case then they should just offer it- feel like suicide? go to your local PD and have them put one in your skull.

If thats not whats really happening then the police need more training on how to apprehend suspects without deadly force who are not armed with a firearm.

What the fuck are you doing on this website?

[John Doenut]

That's what you get for putting roses in the floral arrangement, when the cop ordered Petunias and chrysanthemums.

[eyeful_hound]

Originally Posted by Baphomet67 ↗

The offender got what he wanted.
The cops once again used excessive force- i would have thought that this was in america.

Running, a man can close in at 20 feet per second. So in another 1-1/2 seconds he's on top of you. Then his scissors are just as deadly as your gun.

I'd really like to see you in this situation and try to do what you say. I'm guessing, by your way of thinking; the reality is you've only got a 50/50 chance that either the suspect is dead, or you are.