[kellyhound]

New York Attorney General Letitia James released a chilling set of videos showing the moment police officers used a stun gun on an agitated man in their front lobby, after he had doused himself in hand sanitizer. The man then burst into flames, causing officers to temporarily leave the room.

The Attorney General’s Office said the footage is part of the investigation into the death of 29-year-old J. J, who passed on December 15, 2021, after the encounter with police on October 30.

J. walked into the Catskill Police Department, where he started a verbal altercation with three officers. The video does not include audio; however, officers appear to try speaking to J. for around 30 minutes as he wanders, distressed, in and out of the frame.

“Without hearing what was said, we can’t evaluate how effective de-escalation may have been in this case,” said police training expert and former officer John Cooney of the Troy Police Department.

Later in the video, J. is seen taking off his shirt before picking up a large jug of hand sanitizer and spraying it over his neck, head, and back. When an officer uses a stun gun in an attempt to subdue him, J. bursts into flames.

J.had been hospitalized since the incident until he was pronounced dead in December.

“The Taser is 50,000 volts of electricity. It’s well known, police are trained, not to use it in that circumstance. J. predictably ignited as a result of that,” said Kevin Luibrand, the lawyer representing his family.

“Every single day police come into contact with people having some form of mental health episode, whether it’s on the streets or at home, and there’s ways to handle it. That’s not the way to handle it.”

Cooney, however, disagreed and said the earlier parts of the video, which showed the beginning of the encounter, indicated J. was reaching higher and higher levels of aggravation.

“The use of force continuum starts at a point which is basically responsive to the amount of force and the amount of aggression that we are perceiving.

From the first second to the last frame of the video, we see that he’s agitated, he’s very quick with his movements. One thing I noticed specifically was a constant clenching and unclenching of his fingers into fists,” Cooney comments.

Cooney further said the situation is an unusual one not covered in traditional stun gun training.

“It’s fair to know that any flammable liquid in close proximity, a Taser probably won’t be effective. In fact it could be very harmful to the individual.

But as a rule, we’re talking about gasoline, we’re talking about natural gas environments, we’re talking about environments that are fairly common.

I think it’s fair to say in most Taser trainings, we don’t talk about sanitizer as that obvious flammable liquid,” he explained.

Luibrand said one of the most distressing parts of the video for the family is when officers can be seen running from J. after he caught fire.

“J. was unarmed. The police, rather than help him, ran out of the room, shut the door behind them, and let J. burn,” Luibrand said.

“To immediately respond to jump on top of, to help rollover the individual, that’s a very individual decision and it’s not necessarily predicated by police procedure. The officers left what they thought was a very hazardous situation. They did respond at some point. They reassessed and then responded,” Cooney replied.

Greene County District Attorney Joseph Stanzione said his office was involved in the investigation into the case initially. He said is it the process for the Catskill Police Department to report incidents to the DA to be open and transparent.

As part of the investigation, the DA’s office was waiting on the status of J, with interest in interviewing him. When he died in December, the AG’s office got involved, per New York state law, regarding officer-involved deaths.

The release of the evidence follows NY Attorney General Letitia James’ directive that videos obtained by her office in the course of investigations conducted by the Office of Special Investigation (OSI) be released to the public in order to increase transparency.

The AG’s said its choice to publicize the video is not an indication of the guilt or innocence of any party involved.

OSI looks into every incident where a police officer may have caused a person’s death.

[chode_smoker]

A visual representation of the term ‘adding fuel to the fire’.

[gorefanatic]

Reminds me of my favorite videogame from my youth.

[TyrRoo]

Stupid, selfish, arguably evil pigs. I hope all three of them go to jail for the way they ran away instead of trying to help him. And the shithead who tased him needs to be locked up for good imo, he's too fucking stupid to belong on the outside.

[foxfantastic]

Originally Posted by TyrRoo ↗

Stupid, selfish, arguably evil pigs. I hope all three of them go to jail for the way they ran away instead of trying to help him. And the shithead who tased him needs to be locked up for good imo, he's too fucking stupid to belong on the outside.

Meh, I'm on the cops' side in this situation, because that's how ANY normal person would react in an enclosed space when some enraged fucker holding a jug of sanitizer, a potential incendiary weapon, bursts into flames. Fuck that prick, and fuck his family as well, the fucking vultures. I doubt humanity has lost the next Elon Musk.

I'm not saying cops aren't without their flaws, but they get so much heat recently that it reminds me of a line from the movie Aliens, when the Marines are asked to surrender their weapons and one of them asks, "What the hell are we supposed to use now, man, harsh language?" Cops may be held to a higher standard due to their job, and rightly so, but in the end they are still human fucking beings with instincts, reflexes, and a desire not to die.

[ride]

They could have gone to find a fire extinguisher at the very least.

I think Mr. Agitated Psychosis was trying to make himself slippery with the application of the hand sanitizer, not thinking that the cops were gonna try to charge him up.

[Mr_Shlaapu]

Originally Posted by gorefanatic ↗

Reminds me of my favorite videogame from my youth.

Siphon filter! Fuckin loved that game! 1 & 2. Gabe Logan and his stun gun.

[xielanx]

That looks like that jailhouse shit, taking off his shirt and pouring slippery substance on his skin before jumping into a fight so the police can’t get a grip on him. Play stupid games win stupid prizes

[AnaleFaust]

Originally Posted by gorefanatic ↗

Reminds me of my favorite videogame from my youth.

I fucking loved Syphon Filter as a kid

[pokerplay]

He died doing what he loves. Cosplay as the Human Torch