[Martano666]

Originally Posted by snk1200 ↗

thank god here usa were you have that right to def your self ..

You have the right to defend yourself everywhere, not just in the USA.

[Evil Twin]

Originally Posted by Martano666 ↗

Yep. Believe it or not, crime happens everywhere regardless of whether or not there are guns.
Although the murder rate is DRASTICALLY lower in areas that have gun control laws.
You can piss and moan all you want, gun reform WILL happen in America. And the murder rate will drop by a mile.

What you people refuse to understand is that gun murders are often a crime of convenience. For example, if two guys with guns have a heated argument, often someone will pull out their gun and shoot the other person and regret it LATER. If they didn't have the gun, they might have got in a fist fight instead. Or maybe they would have cooled off before they were able to get access to a gun. It's a LOT harder to stab someone to death. You have to be within stabbing distance, and it might take several stabs to kill the person. That's a lot more opportunity for someone to intervene and stop the situation.
Guns are instant.

First of all, those murder rates you are referring to are most likely overall deaths by firearms, as most confiscationists like to lump self defense in with homicide and suicide. Those who are going to commit suicide are likely to find another way. Some might not, but most will. As seen above, this guy did just fine with a knife. Many other people in the thousands of posts on this site do just fine dying without being killed with a firearm.

The firearm murder rate may be lower in SOME countries where firearms are banned, but the overall murder rates are NOT drastically lower in areas which have gun control. Quite the opposite is true. It is a proven fact that rape, assault, home invasions, violent crime in general goes up in countries with strict gun control.

If you look at ALL of the stats and not just a cherry-picked few, you can look at two of the more recent examples. Australia and England both had major gun bans, but violent crime has risen steadily since then, and they still pull guns off the streets by the thousands every year.

What YOU refuse to understand is that the second amendment does not grant American citizens the right to keep and bear arms, it only states that the right shall not be infringed, thus acknowledging the right pre-dated the Constitution. If the government did not grant the right, the government cannot take it away.

Registration and confiscation hasn't worked in any other country, and it won't work in America. The United States government is not ready to accept the unintended consequences which they know will come with such a foolish notion as trying to take away over three hundred million firearms from innocent civilians. Many of which belong to the police and military which they would like to have doing their dirty work for them. I don't really see that working out too well for them either.

[umakemeSICK]

Now THATS trying to get blood out of a turnip!!

[darkredspyder]

Love the guy that comes to watch halfway through the video. Seemingly no worry of the attacker coming at him next for getting so close.

[Sharon]

Overkill

[acacia]

Originally Posted by Evil Twin ↗

You mean to tell me that crime runs rampant in a country where firearms have long been banned? People still find a way to murder one another if they want to? I guess the guy on the ground would have loved to have had a way to defend himself. It's a little too late for that now.

kind of hard to stab and kick 20 people to death ya fuckin idiot

[lion]

stomp the yard

[Evil Twin]

Originally Posted by acacia ↗

kind of hard to stab and kick 20 people to death ya fuckin idiot

Oh, you mean like the 29 people stabbed to death at a Chinese train station in 2014? Or how about the 22 kids stabbed in a Chinese school on the same day as the Newtown shooting. Or maybe it's the 22 stabbed and slashed by a classmate in Pennsylvania in 2014. How about the 28 kindergarten kids in China in 2010?

Granted, not all of the people in all of those incidents died, but just because the perps sucked at killing people doesn't mean they didn't try mighty hard. Yet, based on your comment, it is fair to conclude that you are one that would take away every innocent civilians ability to level the playing field by having the option to defend themselves or others with a firearm. I just cannot understand that kind of mentality.

Most mass shootings do not have a death toll of 20 or more people. Most seem to be in the range of 5-10, maybe a few more in some of the cases. There are a huge number of mass stabbings that occur in supposed gun free zones all over the world where the number of people killed are more in line with those numbers.

The point has been made MANY times over, that if someone wants to kill someone, they are going to do it with whatever tool is available. Who's the idiot now?

[LrlynJy]

Originally Posted by Etsu ↗

China, no info

oh come on. it's china. what more info do you need? most probably, they were just imitating some killing method they found on the internet.

[EWSER-X]

Originally Posted by XybertroniX ↗

oh come on. it's china. what more info do you need?

I see that most disturbing things usually comes from the Philipines!!!