[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by DrKGSmiff ↗

It’s absolutely adorable that you think CNN is a unique “source”. CNN is paid to tell you the exact same things that NPR, PBS, the BBC, CBC, CBS NBC et al are paid to tell you.

And I’m sure it’s just a complete coincidence that every “opinion” you’ve ever had, in your sad little NPC “life” just HAPPENS to align, 100% and without variation, with what CNN is paid to tell NPCs.

The fact that your entire sprawling rant about crooked media networks that I have never even cited or invoked anywhere on this thread nor on this site did NOT include the legendary Fox news, which has been tantamount to State-run Media for the last two decades is comical, embarrassing, and caused me (and likely anyone else who even bothered to start reading your insipid bullshit) to just stop after the first two paragraphs and move on with my life. I feel quite assured that nothing else that followed was worth reading.

Thanks for your valuable contributions to the thread and to the site! No-prize for you, bootlicking cunt!

[Meridian]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

None of the ones hired in the last six months got 16 weeks of Basic. Most got 6. Several thousand, due to an alleged ‘algorithm glitch’ in their onboarding paperwork got zero. One orientation and then assignment. Welcome to the machine.

Christ.

[wolfie]

Way late on this thread but it looks like the other shooting thread. Vedderman watch your ass and stay out of the physical stuff when you go back. (You know this of course) This is a war zone right now and I can assure everyone that both sides are on hair triggers. Right or wrong this is reality right now. This is like going to the race riots in California. Your own side can mistake you for the other side and both sides are ready to kill.

The man did not exercise good judgement IMO. It was foolish to take a weapon to a volatile area and wrestle with cops. No matter what he was trying to do you are taking a big risk doing it.

This reminds me of the Kyle Rittenhouse ordeal. He could have easily been shot by LE or rioters. It was stupid of him to carry a gun in such and area but IMO even being there was stupid. Migrate toward trouble and it will find you.

As far as the shooting I haven't seen all the videos. I hear he was disarmed and then shot later. There is something in his hand when shot apparently the camera. I think that could be what he was shot for. Maybe someone mistook it for another weapon, and once the shooting starts they can all chip in. ICE does need training on street riots. They are not equipped and probably not trained for issues like this. Few are. I have been in a couple riots and there is animalistic feel in the air for violence. You can sense that this feel can catch fire and explode.

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by Meridian ↗

Christ.

And when I say '6 weeks', that includes their days off. You know how many actual training days they get? 47.

You know why 47? Yup. You guessed it. Because Trump is the 47th president.

This was stated publicly by a Senator in an interview with Jake Tapper and then independently confirmed in three other investigations by unrelated journalists.

When pressed on the point in public, one DHS official said it was 'patently false'...because it was actually 48 training days instead of 47.

In any case, one of the things that was cut from the training program were rudimentary Spanish language lessons, so that ICE could actually communicate with Latino detainees or suspects aside from just beating or shooting them. Oops!

Also do note that Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who murdered Renee Good? He was not an untrained rookie who could lean into 'panic' as a reflection of lack of experience. He was a 10-year veteran of Border Patrol with several reported (alleged) shootings during his time at the Texas border. The unit he was with 10 years ago was investigated by two separate watchdog groups due to its disproportionately high use of lethal force.

Interesting, no, that he's one of the 'seasoned vets' they sent up north to shepherd the rookies...and he just HAPPENS to wind up shooting an unarmed mother four times as she was fleeing an illegal detainment?

Anyway...

[foxfantastic]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

Also do note that Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who murdered Renee Good? He was not an untrained rookie who could lean into 'panic' as a reflection of lack of experience. He was a 10-year veteran of Border Patrol with several reported (alleged) shootings during his time at the Texas border. The unit he was with 10 years ago was investigated by two separate watchdog groups due to its disproportionately high use of lethal force.

Interesting, no, that he's one of the 'seasoned vets' they sent up north to shepherd the rookies...and he just HAPPENS to wind up shooting an unarmed mother four times as she was fleeing an illegal detainment?

Anyway...

Christ

[Vedderman]

How many billions of dollars are American taxpayers pouring into this 'operation'?

And these thugs aren't even being given proper training or uniforms? How long is it until half the people parading around as 'ICE' aren't even actually hired by ICE?

They have no communications training, they have no discernible command structure, they do not ID themselves, most of them haven't worked together previously. Multiple US citizen detainees reported after release that the ICE agents who detained them couldn't get phone signals, had no way of contacting their chain of command in the field, and in several cases, wandered aimlessly in circles around the perimeter of the Whipple building with their detainees because they had no door code access and couldn't get anyone inside to come let them in.

The photo below was taken by world-renowned photojournalist David Guttenfelder in the immediate aftermath of Alex Pretti's murder.

You can see in it with stark clarity that these cosplaying clowns are operating at the level of amateur Ren Fair attendees pretending to be knights but sporting gym socks hanging out of their plastic plate mail jambeaux.

The one in the foreground, despite trying his best to look intimidating, has busted the crotch out of his ill-fitting pants. The one on the right has his chinos pegged like Tom fuckin Sawyer because they're too long for him to wear without tripping. The others are clad in ragged blue jeans and dirty tennis shoes. No uniforms. No IDs, no badges, masked faces. Mostly civilian clothes.

They're a fucking paramilitary militia with ostensible immunity, no oversight, and an overreaching, unconstitutional mandate broader than the Marshal Service.

Showing up to field action in dirty pants because they stayed up too late playing Call of Duty and didn't hear mom yelling down the stairs that she was starting the washing machine.

[wolfie]

47 days huh? It looks it. I believe Ohio's training now is 740 hours and this is considered just basic training. OTJT is usually dependent on the department. Minimum would be until approved by the officer you are being trained by.

My daughter is a guidance Counselor at a Joint vocational school. They have a Criminology two year course there. I was allowed to participate in a shoot or don't shoot course for a day. You and your partner stood in front of a screen and watched the video. You shot when necessary. Guy on my left shot every time. I watched the rest of the class and so did they. Only in obviously don't shoot scenarios did they not shoot. Driving home I told my wife they are teaching these kids to shoot way to often.

[invisibo123]

Good Riddance I say. Keep it up ICE.

[foxfantastic]

Originally Posted by invisibo123 ↗

Good Riddance I say. Keep it up ICE.

Why would you say that?

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by invisibo123 ↗

Good Riddance I say. Keep it up ICE.

Another gutless simping cunt with 14 years on the site and a posting history of less than 1 post per year...but, goddamit, you badasses just GOTTA step up and put on your cheer skirts for the fash.

Seriously. You little pests are like fucking roaches. I have an entire list of all the silent, non-contributing lurkers who have come scurrying out of obscurity just to post tedious, repetitive, trolling bullshit like you did here.

What is it about fellating boot leather that compels so many of you to decide "I have been silent long enough!!! I must now declare myself before the world!"

At least 90% of the thread participants, regardless of their personal feelings or thoughts on the subject, are attempting to engage in some sort of discourse. Semi-cogent thoughts, civil or uncivil arguments, information-sharing, etc.

But you little rats, and there are plenty of you, add nothing but page scroll.