[kellyhound]

Bovino press conference. Approached the ice officers with a handgun.
Vids and pics show something different though. He tries to protect that woman and holds up his arm for protection from the mace while holding a camera in his hand.

[StrategicNuclearMoose]

Originally Posted by pervM ↗

How is he wrong? Its common sense to not interfere with officers who have the right to detain you and cause tremendous amount of problems to you if you give them the excuse. You can't simultaneously go and say ICE is the new Gestapo and then walk right up to their face and expect nothing will happen to you.

Fuck you, cunt

That man was a registered nurse and a veteran of this country doing nothing but filming masked nameless thugs occupying his city.

They approached him, beat him, disarmed him, and executed him in the middle of the street

[pervM]

Originally Posted by Myristylbenzylmorphine ↗

Fuck you, cunt

Hey, by all means do stupid shit and antagonize trigger happy agents if you really want to, more videos and threads for this site to watch. Your funeral.

[Me_On_Top]

Originally Posted by pervM ↗

You can't simultaneously go and say ICE is the new Gestapo and then walk right up to their face and expect nothing will happen to you.

Why not? It's like you've never heard of the freedom of speech before or any other civil liberties. “They can make your life hard” isn’t an argument against exercising your rights, it’s exactly why those rights exist.

How is he wrong? hurr durr, mumble mumble "FAFO". They disarmed him and then killed him. There was a danger, they removed that danger and then shot him. How do you justify that? All the mental gymnastics won't change what it is: murder. And in broad daylight, no less. At least we can take solace in the fact that the agents involved will be held criminally responsible, right? ... right? What a joke the US has become, honestly.

[foxfantastic]

Originally Posted by pervM ↗

How is he wrong? Its common sense to not interfere with officers who have the right to detain you and cause tremendous amount of problems to you if you give them the excuse. You can't simultaneously go and say ICE is the new Gestapo and then walk right up to their face and expect nothing will happen to you.

Hey look, I understand we have an immigrant problem, but you're telling me they couldn't just taze the man? There are no non-lethal options that could have been used to apprehend him?

[pervM]

Originally Posted by Me_On_Top ↗

Why not? It's like you've never heard of the freedom of speech before or any other civil liberties.

If ICE respects your freedom of speech, then they're obviously not Gestapo. Thats my point. If they really are as evil as you claim they are, then why are you intentionally putting yourselves in their way and getting yourself killed in the process?

Protesters in Iran don't do that because they know the actual Gestapo over there actually kills them the moment they give them the long face. They actually fight back and throw molotovs because they know the militia there doesn't show mercy.

Originally Posted by foxfantastic ↗

Hey look, I understand we have an immigrant problem, but you're telling me they couldn't just taze the man? There are no non-lethal options that could have been used to apprehend him?

ICE obviously screwed up in the video, I'm not claiming otherwise. Put the green jacket guy in prison. ICE and the local police in general screwed up by not keeping protesters and bystanders at long distance away from an arrest procedure because then stuff like this happens.
Now Tim Walz called in National Guard who will do exactly what was supposed to happen a month ago.

https://mndaily.com/city/walz-calls-for-a-fair-investigation-following-ice-shooting/01/24/2026/

[goatstroker]

Someone holding their phone saying "someone call 911" shows how stupid these fuckers are.

[Me_On_Top]

Give me a break.

This is what you said:

Originally Posted by pervM ↗

How is he wrong? Its common sense to not interfere with officers who have the right to detain you and cause tremendous amount of problems to you if you give them the excuse. You can't simultaneously go and say ICE is the new Gestapo and then walk right up to their face and expect nothing will happen to you.

I'm referring to the bolded part. It's obvious what you're saying here. "The authorities have immense power over you so don't just say whatever want about them and give them an excuse". I'll say what I want, when I want about these fascist shitheads, end of story.

[Selvm0rd]

This shit is honestly so embarrassing I'm all for more strict immigration laws, it's what keeps a country great, but these absolute morons going around enforcing the law with no training, no nothing and "solving" heated situations that could have been handled professionally, with murder. I cannot believe how dumb ICE is, even by American police standards.

[pervM]

Originally Posted by Me_On_Top ↗

I'm referring to the bolded part. It's obvious what you're saying here. "The authorities have immense power over you so don't just say whatever want about them and give them an excuse".

Not what I said at all. You're free to say whatever you want but please try not to put words in my mouth as well, thank you.