[Jram99]

Originally Posted by HIGHTECHDUDE ↗

Obviously, you can presume that your death is just minutes away. So while you're unbound and given a knife, wouldn't you make one last ditch (Hail Mary) effort to stab your kidnapper(s) instead of murdering your friend?... just say'in.

With friends like this, who needs enemies?

Lost. Are you saying the killer was one of the 5 ducktaped?

[addictionna]

Originally Posted by GuttR ↗

He stuck the knife through his neck then cut out. I haven’t seen that many times.

Hes a natural. Fantastic job.

[-NocturnalPulse-]

That’s some twisted shit. If he tried going at them with the knife, they probably would’ve easily disarmed him without having to shoot and kill him

[HIGHTECHDUDE]

Originally Posted by Jram99 ↗

Lost. Are you saying the killer was one of the 5 ducktaped?

The hostage on the right side of photo wearing the "Buccaneer" hoodie murdered the guy next to him.

[HIGHTECHDUDE]

Originally Posted by cutterschoice ↗

If they told you that they would gouge your eyes out, break every bone in your body, stamp your balls into pancakes, and then peel your skin off UNLESS you beat your friend and cut his head off, in which case you'll simply be killed quickly, what would you do?

So, after everything that's happened, you're going to trust your lying murdering captors to have mercy on you? Seriously?!!

It's decisions like this that separates men
from the liberal pussies in the world.

[foxfantastic]

Originally Posted by HIGHTECHDUDE ↗

So, after everything that's happened, you're going to trust your lying murdering captors to have mercy on you? Seriously?!! :

The simple answer is YES, and the simple explanation is that in a situation where your life or the life of someone you love is at stake, your first instinct is to do whatever it takes to defuse the situation or at least make the outcome favorable to yourself. You're not thinking about what's going to happen three minutes from now, you're not thinking about THAT guy; you're thinking "I have a gun to my face and if I stab this guy, MAYBE they will let me go."

It's decisions like this that separates men
from the liberal pussies in the world.

You don't know the man's political position so shut the fuck up. Politics were probably the farthest thing from this man's mind when he was faced with a life or death situation. He was probably thinking something along the lines of, "Goddamn it, I should have fucked Marisol last night!" and "hopefully no one finds out about this."

[HIGHTECHDUDE]

Originally Posted by foxfantastic ↗

The simple answer is YES, and the simple explanation is that in a situation where your life or the life of someone you love is at stake, your first instinct is to do whatever it takes to defuse the situation...

... and where exactly did this fellow wind up after committing his cowardly and morally reprehensible actions against his own buddy? Hmmm?? He was tortured and executed, just like the rest.

How a socially liberal minded person chooses to vote politically has nothing to do with the argument. It is an inane weakness in character. An ideal that life is only important to "me" and everything will always get better for us if we just hold hands. Liberal minds are blinded by self-obsession and are incapable of seeing any bigger picture.

You should really understand that, but then again your comments make it abundantly clear that you lack the intellect and moral fortitude to acknowledge any other enlightened thought, IMHO.

[foxfantastic]

Originally Posted by HIGHTECHDUDE ↗

... and where exactly did this fellow wind up after committing his cowardly and morally reprehensible actions against his own buddy? Hmmm?? He was tortured and executed, just like the rest.

We don't know what happened to this particular dude. The original post only states that a single corpse was found inside of a torched car belonging to one of the kidnapped youths. That could have been any of the youths, not necessarily the one doing the stabbing.

How a socially liberal minded person chooses to vote politically has nothing to do with the argument.

This entire paragraph is full of , so I have to break it down into chunks.

First of all, you injected politics into something that has absolutely nothing to do with politics.

It is an inane weakness in character.

Second of all, it takes mighty courage just to stand up for what you believe is right in the face of great adversity, and it takes great character in order to persuade people to even listen to you, much more for them to actually agree with what you have to say. That sentiment applies to conservatives and liberals alike.

An ideal that life is only important to "me" and everything will always get better for us if we just hold hands.

I'm not sure how to interpret the first part of what you said; but third of all, what is wrong with people working hand in hand with other people? Communities coming together to help those who have been impacted by a natural disaster, for example?

Are you saying that we SHOULDN'T vouch for peace and harmony? Are you saying we should live in a dog eat dog world? Isn't that what you were accusing liberals of doing in the first part of this sentence?

Liberal minds are blinded by self-obsession and are incapable of seeing any bigger picture.

Fourth of all, this applies to both parties. Conservatives have their own agendas that they follow blindly without even thinking of the repercussions. Just take a look at what's happening in Florida, where the conservative governor is making schools teach that slavery was beneficial to African slaves. Is that really a lesson you want to teach your kids? That making people work for you against their will, under penalty of death, is a good thing?

You should really understand that, but then again your comments make it abundantly clear that you lack the intellect and moral fortitude to acknowledge any other enlightened thought, IMHO.

You're at liberty to agree or disagree with my statements, and you can call me an idiot at your leisure, but I'm still gonna listen to you if you want to debate these issues any further. That's how progress is made, by talking about our issues .

[HIGHTECHDUDE]

Originally Posted by foxfantastic ↗

We don't know what happened to this particular dude. The original post only states that a single corpse was found inside of a torched car belonging to one of the kidnapped youths...

There are several English language news updates online. Four bodies were recovered near the scene, mutilated and decapitated. The fifth body as mentioned was found burned beyond recognition (no further details) in a vehicle registered to one of the five victims. All victims were tortured with no survivors. Families have preliminarily ID'd all the victims from clothing.

These young men were abundantly aware of the cartel horror activities in the location they were lured to in search of security work. I can understand they were duped and their lack of maturity and naiveté could leave them feeling helpless and frightened with the lack of ability to make cognitive decisions. But sadly, it's apparent that at least Jaime (the cutter) failed to have any morally redeeming character to him. This wasn't necessarily a matter of age or intelligence, as much as it was likely a failure in his upbringing.

Although, as we've seen in many cartel videos, this is only too common in Latin America as well as the US and other parts of the world. Far too many young men are simply willing and eager to sell their soul to do the devil's bidding. Their cooperation and willingness to become depraved savages is partially why the cartels and other terrorists have become such an enormous scourge on this planet. Cartels exploit these damaged and vulnerable failures of society, similar to the way most cults hold a grip on young impressionable and liberally poisoned minds that lack a moral accountability and the important instincts of human survival.

Truthfully, I don't hold the cartels entirely responsible. The appetite for illicit drugs and the complacent attitudes about casual drug use by damaged individuals in the US and internationally is what feeds the beast, but I digress.

I honestly find it rather pointless and frustrating to embark on long exhaustive discussions on these topics in this type of forum. I could go on ad nauseam about the ills influencing society. But realistically I can acknowledge that no minds will be changed here.

Suffice to say, logic dictates that we will always stand by our own principles and should agree to disagree.

Jai Guru Deva Om

[Pyramid_Head]

Some of the most fucked up shit I've heard in a long while. How horrible to say the least.