[zin0]

Wow lots of Libtards on this site and on this video

P.S. I don't like Trump either, but I dislike LIBTARDS a lot more.

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by zin0 ↗

Wow lots of Libtards on this site and on this video

P.S. I don't like Trump either, but I dislike LIBTARDS a lot more.

Thanks, dude!

Cuz, you know, the entire fucking forum was just waiting with bated breath for some random dipshit to wander into the thread with the sole purpose of telling us all exactly how he feels about Trump and 'the Libtards.'

Here's a news flash. No one gives a single rotten fuck. Quit jamming up a busy thread with your precious opinions.

The adults are actually trying to argue in here, you prattling little child.

[DegoLocc]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

And I'm not saying you're a closet alt-right whackjob and Fash apologist, but it's sure looking that way!

You claim to be a 'moderate' and while you grudgingly give half-assed lip service to the idea that Good 'should not have died', ALMOST every single post you support, agree with, upvote, and don't argue with in this entire thread is made by an avowed GOP/MAGA supporter espousing a love for over-reaching authority.

You attacked me personally because you felt as though 'it sure looked like' I had banned dozens of people in the site all day long just because they disagreed with me when in fact that was not even remotely true.

For someone who touts his own 'moderate' viewpoint and adherence to a measured, logical, fair and balanced approach to the world, I'd dare say you put a HELL of a lot of stock in things that 'sure look that way', 'that way' mysteriously ALWAYS being some skewed-ass hard right leaning view. You loooove playing devil's advocate, always prefacing with the 'I don't mean to be...' caveat and ALWAYS only playing the devil to any viewpoint remotely left of center.

Damned odd coincidence, a fair and balanced moderate man who ONLY allows himself to judge on 'sure looks that way' when it fits a decidedly conservative narrative.

But guess what. I'm gonna try hard to be the Vedderman the Better Man and assume that just because it 'SURE LOOKS LIKE' you're one of the several bearded Fash fetishists we have here who make a big song and dance about being balanced and moderate, yet suspiciously act in total opposition to that at every turn, that you are actually in earnest, true to your STATED convictions, and only seeking the truth of a situation with no actual bias for what you WANT the truth to be.


To that end, I will give you an assist. Renee Nicole Good had out of state plates on the car because she moved from Kansas City to Minneapolis midway through last year. Her wife's statement about blaming herself for 'getting her down here' was in reference to her being the one that convinced Renee to leave KC and relocate to Minneapolis, both because the city was more politically aligned with their feelings and because she had ties there.

Renee's second husband, an Air Force veteran, ran a comedy podcast for several years that she co-hosted with him from KC. He passed away in 2023. They had one child together. She met her wife the following year and moved with her to Minnesota the year after that.

Renee's first husband, with whom she had 2 children, was still close with her due to their teenagers and gave a series of short interviews today wherein he stated unequivocally that she was NOT an 'activist' or an 'agitator' or any sort of paid agent provocateur. He said she was of strong moral character, a lifetime Christian who had done missionary work when she was younger, and a good mother.

Her mother also reported in an interview that they spoke frequently she was not part of any militant groups, or any kind of activism designed to interfere with ICE.

Several State leaders, however, confirmed that she was on record with local and state government as being a registered 'legal observer - a volunteer who monitors police and security forces at protests and operations.' Which explains why she and her wife were merely sitting in their car, observing and recording the proceedings of a scheduled ICE raid, rather than standing out with signs or getting in ICE agents' faces.

There are several agencies making a case that she was, in fact, NOT blocking ICE at al; but was already trying to affect a 3-point turnaround or a U to relocate when the murderer's truck pulled up near her. Without speaking specifically as to intent at this time, there are definitely several videos that show her in more or less the same spot, waving traffic through ahead of her. In the beginning of the first video in this thread, it has been posited that she was trying to wave the ICE truck to go around, as well.

Hard to tell because within 60 seconds, they were swarming her vehicle yelling profanity and ordering her to get out while ALSO ordering her to clear the road. Unsure of which conflicting order to follow, she froze and then tried to 'clear the road' be fleeing down the street once she realized one of the Gestapo was trying to forcibly enter her vehicle without permission.

She had an English degree, had previously worked as a dental assistant, and was currently focusing on being a stay at home mom, spending most of her time with her youngest child and her wife when the latter had days off. Such as yesterday. Their child was at kindergarten classes when his mother was being murdered by the Gestapo.

She had no criminal history. Had no history of 'activism' aside from a few peaceful local protests with her wife. She wrote poetry.

She had a dog that was also in the car with her and and her wife when she was murdered in cold blood by a masked thug.

That enough to change any of your opinion about the way 'things sure were lookin'? Or would you rather continue forming your fair, balanced, and moderate opinion of this 'professional agitator' and 'domestic terrorist' based on the statements of the President you purport to distrust and hate as well as internet memes pulled off of TS and Twitter?

I'd love to take the time to rebuttal these points but honestly man you seem so upset about something I said I'm just going to say fuck it and be done in here. Lol

I've said more than enough of what I think, to go around, I barely ever post here.

If what I said makes you feel like I'm some "fascist", so be it man. You're entitled to think what you want.

I've expressed why I consider myself moderate and I feel I've been consistent throughout.

If you feel I've been consistently "Fash", there's not much I can do besides change my opinion to suite you. Which I'm only inclined to do genuinely.

I gave you credit and agreed with you where I did, and respectfully disagreed with you where I didn't.

If you feel I personally was trying to shit on you or your opinion, all I can do is apologize and profess to you that I wasn't.

Anyways, see yall around in a couple years by the next time I post if it's like my average/usual posting habits.

Happy New Year and no hard feelings anyone, hopefully.

[akyan]

ok lets remove all the leftists and right wing names calling, lets go with a person parking her car horizontal across the road was shot and killed after she accidentally struck an armed officer during her attempt to drive away. While tragic as this incident is, it is also a legal use of force due to the fact that the car she was driving came into contact with the armed officer which constitute a "assault with a deadly weapon against an officer" which allowed the officer respond with deadly force.

you guys calling each other names is not going to change anything, I will bet 100 bux that's how things will be treated.

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by akyan ↗

ok lets remove all the leftists and right wing names calling, lets go with a person parking her car horizontal across the road was shot and killed after she accidentally struck an armed officer during her attempt to drive away. While tragic as this incident is, it is also a legal use of force due to the fact that the car she was driving came into contact with the armed officer which constitute a "assault with a deadly weapon against an officer" which allowed the officer respond with deadly force.

you guys calling each other names is not going to change anything, I will bet 100 bux that's how things will be treated.

He shot her FOUR fucking times from multiple angles. At BEST one of those shots was in response to a perceived 'threat'. If you allow that a car rolling about 3-5 mph and actively trying to turn away in order to avoid him and flee.

Except that even after she 'struck' him (with no visual proof of any sort of injury then or now) at a very low velocity while trying to turn away, the murderous thug continued to squeeze the trigger again.
And again.
And again.

Firing no longer from a knee-jerk position of perceived or real threat. But unloading on an unarmed, middle-aged woman through her driver's side window as her car was traveling AWAY from him, either fleeing what she perceived as an unlawful detainment and use of lethal force or because he had already blown half her fucking head off with the first shot and she was dead with her foot on the gas until she hit a car 90 degrees AWAY from where he was standing a quarter block away.

No fucks given he'd already murdered her. No fucks given she was either dead or fleeing the scene and no longer (if EVER) a threat.

Just kept on unloading into a wife and mother of three, who lived in the local area and was observing the raid from her car without getting out and waving signs or directly interfering with agents.

Then fucking denied an onsite medical professional the opportunity to attempt to treat his murder victim in an effort to see if she could be saved.

So, ya know, no. Sorry. I do NOT agree that this was a 'clear case' of a legal use of force.

Neither does the mayor of Minneapolis.
Or the governor.
Or half the country for that matter.

So pretty sure this crime is not being 'put to bed' just yet.


"Homeland Barbie" and "Dementia Donny" may be selling that load of horse shit and swearing to 'protect' him, but if local or State authorities decide the case against him has legs, they are gonna run out the string and toss his dumb ass right into the lockup where they still have Derek Chauvin's gunbelt and jock strap hanging as a souvenir.

[wolfie]

It was where two assholes met. One lost. I doubt the girl realized she was in as much trouble as she was. Vehicle is an awesome weapon and used frequently. I do not think that was her intent from video I have seen.

I don't think the people affecting the arrest are trained well in street situations. You don't stand in front of cars never. She would have easily been run down by the police, but in this city they do not want to cooperate. So ICE is undercover making what are tactical arrests like felony squads, in hostile area's encouraged by their politicians. I'm not siding with ICE, I can give a fuck less. Nobody comes in my yard or my neighbors.

I have to wonder though why we let people just come across then throw them out. Simple, it was not controlled. Why in the world did we not have businesses set up to interview and hire people coming across to work which are the vast majority. This last incursion was worse than when Castrol sent us all his prisoners. So now they are trying to rid the streets of them and it is too late. They have disappeared. New ID's no job just a one percenter.

Our Government acts like a bunch of fucking kids. Concerned with their image and how much money they can steal. Job for life. We need term limits and adults willing to work together.

[Oonie]

Originally Posted by DaBigNob ↗

See: Ashli Babbit

No leftists protested that murder by Capitol police, and it was shoot on sight, no warnings given.

And she had nothing in her hands, unlike the yahoo who aimed her 2 tons of steel & fiberglass into a federal officer.

It's a simple thing to teach: If you don't want to die, you must comply

[Vincentsdream]

Originally Posted by Oonie ↗

It's a simple thing to teach: If you don't want to die, you must comply

How to survive fascism.

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by Oonie ↗

And she had nothing in her hands, unlike the yahoo who aimed her 2 tons of steel & fiberglass into a federal officer.

It's a simple thing to teach: If you don't want to die, you must comply

You gutless fucking bootlicker.

You do understand that the scope within which 'noncompliance' allows for a fucking streetside execution is EXTREMELY narrow?

It's good to know that your default position, innocent or guilty, right or wrong, you are the exact sort of cocksucker to get on your knees, lick a boot, and then reach for the zipper in front of your face. And when Trooper Bubbins tells you you're gonna swallow his load, you gulp it down like fucking eggnog at Christmas and you say, "Yessir, officer, may I present my puckered anus now?"


But some of us in this country still have an ounce of self-respect. And respect for those who came before us and worked and fought and died so that our country did NOT become a 'Comply or Die' nightmare of tyranny.

And here you are, on your knees with dirty cock breath working overtime to tell them it's okay, we didn't need those fucking Rights anyway.

They don't have to come and take it when you bootlicking, gutless, unfaithful cowards are so happy just to give it all away.

I hope you get your wish one day, boy. I hope you get tagged in an unlawful traffic stop and slurp down so much Statie cum that it comes out your goddam eyes.

Because FUCK YOU six ways from Sunday for volunteering to give your Rights up. And fuck you even harder for trying to forfeit mine in the bargain.

You inbred Fash dipshits are working REALLY hard to turn my country into some sort of dystopian hellscape but it isn't there yet. For NOW this is still America.

"Comply or die" is not a blanket order allowed for in the Bill of fucking Rights. No matter how hard your Fash Fetish Fantasy may wish it were so.

No go brush the uniformed cock off your breath and change your diaper before your beleaguered asshole starts to leak on the floor.

Reprehensible simp. You're a goddam disgrace.

[akyan]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

He shot her FOUR fucking times from multiple angles. At BEST one of those shots was in response to a perceived 'threat'. If you allow that a car rolling about 3-5 mph and actively trying to turn away in order to avoid him and flee.

Except that even after she 'struck' him (with no visual proof of any sort of injury then or now) at a very low velocity while trying to turn away, the murderous thug continued to squeeze the trigger again.
And again.
And again.

Firing no longer from a knee-jerk position of perceived or real threat. But unloading on an unarmed, middle-aged woman through her driver's side window as her car was traveling AWAY from him, either fleeing what she perceived as an unlawful detainment and use of lethal force or because he had already blown half her fucking head off with the first shot and she was dead with her foot on the gas until she hit a car 90 degrees AWAY from where he was standing a quarter block away.

No fucks given he'd already murdered her. No fucks given she was either dead or fleeing the scene and no longer (if EVER) a threat.

Just kept on unloading into a wife and mother of three, who lived in the local area and was observing the raid from her car without getting out and waving signs or directly interfering with agents.

Then fucking denied an onsite medical professional the opportunity to attempt to treat his murder victim in an effort to see if she could be saved.

So, ya know, no. Sorry. I do NOT agree that this was a 'clear case' of a legal use of force.

Neither does the mayor of Minneapolis.
Or the governor.
Or half the country for that matter.

So pretty sure this crime is not being 'put to bed' just yet.


"Homeland Barbie" and "Dementia Donny" may be selling that load of horse shit and swearing to 'protect' him, but if local or State authorities decide the case against him has legs, they are gonna run out the string and toss his dumb ass right into the lockup where they still have Derek Chauvin's gunbelt and jock strap hanging as a souvenir.

I didn't ask whether you agreed or not, I simply stated that's how it is going to be treated. All you have to do is poke a policeman to be arrested for "Assaulting an Officer" whether you agree to the charges or not matters little. It's how it is in USA.

What I'm trying to say is, it's the passionate name calling that's sets people off and it gets no where. You will not change anyone's mind about what they believe and neither will they change your mind about what you believe.

In 6 month, lets see what happens to this case and better yet who will remember.