[b0g]

wearing a tactical glove is saying I might gonna use my fists repeatedly. The "security" guy was called to push the white shirt away from the resto. "security" guy immediately escalated the situation.
It was unclear this "security" guy was official, or a mob thug.

he was not a talk guy, but a fist gay. even more stupid as the white shirt was tipsy.

[xxxnowayxxx]

Oh I'm from Hungary and haven't heard of this happening until now lmfao

[addictionna]

Nice done.

[b3tuz01]

Self defense. Next case

[photo2uj]

Originally Posted by smoesq ↗

I should have been more clear in my original post. I am not saying he wasn’t attacked first. He most definitely was. But even with a sucker punch, self defense isn’t the same as retaliating. The guy lays there and is no longer being attacked nor is the other guy focusing his attention on him. As a more extreme example, if you get sucker punched in a bar, you fall down, and the other guy walks outside, you getting up and following him to punch him is not self defense. It is also assault. The law doesn’t allow retaliation. Now, do I understand this would be a natural response of someone or perhaps even morally justified, yes. But it’s still not self defense. Of course this is a much closer call, but it appears the guy is no longer on the offensive. Plus, you’re overlooking the fact that a knife is an elevation of the level of force and would potentially be viewed as excessive. These issues aren’t as clear cut as you make them seem under the laws of many jurisdictions. PS: I am a 15 year attorney who has prosecuted and done criminal defense work. Not saying that makes my opinion better, but I have experienced plenty of self-defense cases

You did not mention the skills the professional fighter instructor has acquired from training. I view his fists are killing tools that should never be used outside a properly supervise training environment.

[Nofx99]

That's the very definition of self defense. Perfect case

[AngelAssassin]

It’s a very sad, unfortunate situation…
Both men unnecessarily escalated the fight. This could, and should, have been easily handled with words, and a little forgiveness on the part of the waiter. But some men have a REALLY hard time backing down once their ire is up…
And here we are!

[NUUDLZ]

Can't hear shit, everything is blurry... I'm not wasting my time watching shit that I can't see it hear.... unfuckingbelievable this blurry shit is here...

[aproactivecampr]

Sucker punched the guy, yeah he had it coming

[aproactivecampr]

[QUOTE=smoesq;8029531]This is a tricky one. It isn’t SELF defense because the guy wasn’t attacking him?

He sucker punched him and almost knocked him out, what are you watching?