[k_dub]

EW he didn't even have a chance to put his hands up

[upinthemountains]

Cops say freeze and hands up... you dont freeze, and dont put hands up AND reach for something. Police shoot you. Simple. Why should this cop have to worry about not making it home to his family because of some criminal thug. It looked like a good shoot to me.

[corrico]

while i agree that in the cops defense, taking the shot was the most logical move for him to make, as there is a video on here show whast happens when a cop shows too much restraint, ie: cop gets killed by man with ak, however, i feel that perhaps 1, 2 ,maybe 3, shots would have een justified, but emptying damn near a whole clip into the guy? Seems a little excessive does it not?

[TheUrinator]

I think the cops were wrong in this shooting. I admit there was a split second to respond to the suspect but 13 shots fired including 4 while he was on the ground clearly demonstrates to me that if the cops are this god-awful afraid from a man 15 feet away suspected of having a essentially a pocket knife, maybe they should not a cop in the first place. This is the type of situation Tasers are made for, not to shock kids and old people so make placing them in cuffs "easier". My feeling are the cops involved in the shooting should be in a position without firearms. Maybe a meter maid would be more suited for these guys.

[bigough13]

He was warned several times, he didn't listen.

[gerber]

The report says his foot was caught in the seatbelt.

Rewatching the video, you can clearly see that is the case. He steps out of the car, puts his hands up startled/scared, then realizes his foot is caught and reaches down to undo it.

In that split second the cop empties out a clip into him.

I don't see how anyone could say that's not excessive and incompetent, a severe lack of judgment and composure. What, does that cop do this everytime he pulls someone over and they reach into their glove compartment for their registration?

Like, if a cop says "freeze" and you move then the penalty is instant death? Is there anybody who is actually saying that?

How about Donald Trump gets pulled over.

Cop: "Freeze!!!!!! FREEEEEEZZE!!!!! FREEEEEEEAAAAZZE!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD FREEEEZE!!!!!"

Trump: "Ok, officer, I have a letter from the mayor of the city right here..."

Cop: "FRRREEEEEEEEZE!!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST FREEEEEEEEZE!!!! OH MY GOD I AM SHITTING MY PANTS PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST FREEEEEZE!!!!!!!"

Trump: "Ok, just let me grab this document..."

*BAM* *BAM* *BAM* *BAM* *BAM* *BAM*

*BAM* *BAM* *BAM* *BAM* *BAM*

..... *BAM*

..................*BAM*

[Mr Sparkle]

One thing is for sure, 11 or 13 shot were overkill.
That guy sounded like a real burden on society anyway.
And handcuffing the corpse wasn't needed.

[AmericanIllusions]

Originally Posted by Mr Sparkle ↗

One thing is for sure, 11 or 13 shot were overkill.
That guy sounded like a real burden on society anyway.
And handcuffing the corpse wasn't needed.

Amazing what's happened to me since I posted this vid. Caught some fuckers right in the act of stealing my truck 2 days ago. They got away with it but I recovered it 10 mins later. Afterward I thought of the deceased in the vid and said "fuck him, he was a car thief". Truth is, he had no weapon and he was moving so fast because he was facing his 3rd strike so he decided to run. His foot was caught in the safety belt as we all saw and he was attempting to free himself. The penalty for disobeying an officer shouldn't be death. That cop is guilty as charged of manslaughter at the very least, but was cleared. Something is very wrong with our justice system, putting aside what a pos the deceased was.

[TheUrinator]

I guess I've become more and more anti-cop over the course of my life. When I was young I had respect for them. They seemed to be more concerned with public interests. Since I have grown up, there seems to have been a major shift in their most basic thinking. Now, everyone is thought to be hiding hand grenades and machine guns and is on PCP ready to kill the cop, the cops family, the cop's dog, and the neighbors across the street. Self preservation of the cop trump everything else. Forget there is an occupied home in the background of their line of fire. Empty your clip and figure out if the person is really a threat later when the corpse is examined. Where was the harm in the cops taking defensive positions say, behind the doors of their squad cars? At least the cops would have been in a better position to make life and death decisions, than bum rush and if there are any split second movements, empty your clip into the suspect. Which brings me to what this guy was suspected of in the first place. Leaving the scene of a mass murder? Getting into an argument with an emotional nut of a woman? They had very little to go on to decide if the man was really a threat or just another decent person experiencing a severe crisis. My point is that they took away any possibility of ending this situation without the use of deadly force. It was not clear in the video that he had any weapon, it was assumed he had one. There was a four inch knife found in the bed of the truck later, maybe a plant, maybe not. Nobody on this site knows. And if the cops were a bit more interested in reducing the use of deadly force, they would have been in a much better position to make that judgement call from defensive positions. There is a sad truth that there is an ever growing number of people who do not trust the cops. This makes people less compliant with them. And honestly, makes the cops less safe. The Best way for them to increase safety is to improve their own image and public perception. What harm is there in having the public view police as "Peace officers" or simple law enforcement. Instead Police are portraying themselves as some type of para-military goon squad. But I guess that is more appealing to the type of officers who watch COPS on TV while fervently masturbating with gun oil.

[Emma-O]

Hasta la vista...Baybee.

Word to the wise. If a cop tells you don't move or I will shoot you. The proper response is not to go grabbing at your body or pockets. You're not a god. You're not special. I'm not saying the cop was right on shooting the panicky man 13 times. But cops don't shoot for kneecaps. They will shoot your center mass and head because that is where all your vital organs are. There's one reason they shoot y9u like that. To neutrealize the threat. Whether that results in the ascalents death or not of course matters what the bullets hit in your body. To put it into prospective there are three ways to neutralize a human threat with a gun. Create enough blood loss so the person can no longer sustain their blood pressure and pass out. Cause enough trauma to send them into shock. Or cause neurological damage so they either pass out or cant walk. By shooting the spinal cord or the brain.

That's the whole key. Otherwise people can still be a threat. There are many cases of people sustaining gunshots and are prefectly capable of still attacking. Even shots from a .45. You don't shoot a person who is trying to kill you in the fucking kneecap. You're a damn idiot if you do. Any notion to the contrary is nothing but idealistic ramblings from someone who wants to pretend they know what they're talking about, and probably hates guns to begin with. You shoot to neutralize that threat. Thats It.

I hope the officer saw what he said. Sure looked like he was reaching and grabbing something. The officer had a much better view than we did, and they're not trained to take chances or fuck around.