Footage from the Massive Explosion in Beirut Port, Lebanon

Dr Thrumpkinz · #**171** ● 08-06-2020, 07:44 PM

And I guess you are deliberately forgetting about the massacres against jews in British Mandatory Palestine, even before the creation of zionist terrorists groups like Irgun.
Yes buddy, every nation, race, and religion has blood in their hands. Every state in this planet has been 'delinquent' against anybody through their history. You just have to read more to identify every human collective as a delinquent bastard. Maybe we all deserve to be whiped out.

And yes, we as humans can recognize patterns in war, in terrorism, in street crime, in drug dealing... at a smaller scale is called profiling.

So we come back to the begining of the thread, with my guess in the first page. Was it a typical seaport accident or not?

Cheers ;)

No, I wouldn't want to leave out any of those times that Zionists attacked Jews in all those different places in, not only, English controlled areas, but also throughout the Middle East, back then, to make Jews living outside of Israel feel that Israel was the only safe place for them to live.
Yeah we should talk about all those times. That would be funny, but I can't imagine them helping the case you would make at all. The one that says it's all good that they disregarded the stipulations of them being a valid nation within months, and then disregarded the the UN's rules against expanding outside of its own borders by invading other countries only 22 years later.
Israel is an inexcusably horrible nation. Its validation has always been best served by shutting down conversation, not discussing or trying to defend its behavior. Whenever it tries to blame anything on someone else, it only takes several minutes unwind the lies to see their own involvement in those very things.

The Likud Party that has ruled that place since the 70's is a racist criminal organization made up of the children and grandchildren of some of the first known terrorists. Trying to stick up for that place is a preposterous and futile thing to do. I love to read the Haaretz, just to see them contradict all the other English written propaganda around the world.

Dr Thrumpkinz · #**172** ● 08-06-2020, 07:58 PM

I don't know why I write like that sometimes Lindemann. I did the same thing in a CORGI-19 thread a couple of weeks ago, and all I have to show for it is that now I'm addicted to making fun of Yanni.
My place in this world is to make people laugh!

Think what you wanna. I don't want to make you angry, sometimes I wish there was a country that I liked enough to defend. I don't have the time to deal with the consequences of making you want you to argue with me.

I have Yanni GIF's burning a hole in my skull!

Lindemann · #**173** ● 08-06-2020, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Thrumpkinz ↗

No, I wouldn't want to leave out any of those times that Zionists attacked Jews in all those different places in, not only, English controlled areas, but also throughout the Middle East, back then, to make Jews living outside of Israel feel that Israel was the only safe place for them to live.
Yeah we should talk about all those times. That would be funny, but I can't imagine them helping the case you would make at all. The one that says it's all good that they disregarded the stipulations of them being a valid nation within months, and then disregarded the the UN's rules against expanding outside of its own borders by invading other countries only 22 years later.
Israel is an inexcusably horrible nation. Its validation has always been best served by shutting down conversation, not discussing or trying to defend its behavior. Whenever it tries to blame anything on someone else, it only takes several minutes unwind the lies to see their own involvement in those very things.

The Likud Party that has ruled that place since the 70's is a racist criminal organization made up of the children and grandchildren of some of the first known terrorists. Trying to stick up for that place is a preposterous and futile thing to do. I love to read the Haaretz, just to see them contradict all the other English written propaganda around the world.

Of course I know revisionist zionists commited horrendous crimes against almost everyone; I never defended that, Jesusfuck!

I was talking about the early massacres of palestinians against jewish families before the zionist terrorist wave which i guess you don't approve as I see you are a intelligent dude. Look Thrumpkinz, I think you are taking me wrong, I'm not a zionist imperialist or whatever shit they call it. I feel terribly sad about Gaza and the West Bank, I'm a fucking human too. I don't like bigotry, imperialism, nor terrorism. So I don't support the crimes commited in the middle east in the name of any faith, flag, or nation. But I think Jewish people can live in Eretz Yisrael if they get along with their neighbors. Nothing would make me happier than see peace and coexistence between cultures and religions.
Yes, I'm a supporter of the 2 states solution, the (sadly impossible) final peace. No more blood deserved to be spilled in that land.

Everything in this thread started because I thought the evidences were clearly pointing to a seaport accident, and not an Israeli attack, and I wrongly identified a racist attitude in those blaming Israel without proof. That was because many people today still mix the concepts of the Jewish people, and the State of Israel. Glad to see you don't.

And I'm not Jewish nor Israeli nor anything related to the Middle East. I'm a Spaniard, a country which commited vicious massacres against Jewish people through the middle ages.
Even in a small town like mine, there were several pogroms against their people, dismembering, crushing, destroying everyone, even children. The extent of the massacres was so big, that nowadays in my town we use the expression "Matar Judíos" (To kill Jews) when we're going to get drunk with friends in Easter. Pretty hardcore for anglosaxon political correctness, i guess. That is because the medieval rulers of the city used to organize heavy drinking parties to celebrate with all the citizens after each massacre.
I told you this little story because, well, it kinda fits in this forum

But much important, because this is what inspired me from an early age to read about the history, the fucking raw and sad history of the Jewish people through space and time in this planet. But honestly, I prefer to read the Mishnah, or the medieval chronicles about the jewish persecution, rather than any political XXth century book.

Cheers and sorry for the big post

Dr Thrumpkinz · #**174** ● 08-06-2020, 09:58 PM

This is a take on all this by Alex Thomson--an ex-M16 Officer, that I've been reading, and listening to for a few years. He seems always to be conversing with people in intelligence in all sorts of countries. He speaks plenty of languages, and used work in signal intelligence, and in foreign language analysis in the UK.

Believe what you like about the Turkish connection he makes, I can think of a couple reasons why Russia might want to focus on Turkey right now--it does make a lot of sense to me though.
But really, I was waiting to hear something about this from some demolitions experts, like these Russian sappers he spoke with would be.
Does anyone know about 120mm mortar rounds? These that he mentions. Does he mean actual shells were maybe being stored there, or just the stuff inside them? The powder or whatever. And what is that powder that they use in them called?
Is it this stuff, the stuff inside one of these in the second video?