[WhiskeyOutpost]

Originally Posted by Timoteus ↗

Get rid of the guns, and less people will die. It’s that simple. All your angry bluster and clichéd sarcasm means nothing..

Get rid of the guns, and less people will die. Fuckwit.

My issue is that you devolve everything to "guns". No. This country has far larger issues that don't make the tools in people's hands the primary issue. If you're going to attack a problem, don't stick a bandaid on it. Kill it at the root. Fuckwit Euro, like I said read a book. And you probably never sacrificed a damn thing in your life

[Timoteus]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

My issue is that you devolve everything to "guns". No. This country has far larger issues that don't make the tools in people's hands the primary issue. If you're going to attack a problem, don't stick a bandaid on it. Kill it at the root. Fuckwit Euro, like I said read a book. And you probably never sacrificed a damn thing in your life

Your attitude exemplifies the utterly determined, wilful ignorance on the part of a vast number of Americans.

“Guns aren’t dangerous, it’s the people using them who are..”, or

“People die on the roads, so does that mean we should ban cars as well?”

People like you absolutely refuse to see the utterly obvious, stark facts.. twisting logic to fit your obsession with concepts like ‘freedom’ and ‘empowerment’ and ‘personal safety’..

The US gun-culture will NEVER change. The cultural and social tensions, the paranoia, the drugs, the partisanship.. those things will take generations to disappear, and in the meantime, thousands of Americans, including women and children, die from bullets every year.

But you want to keep your guns. We banned them in Australia, and gun deaths dropped to almost nil. And no, those gun deaths were not replaced by murder from other weapons. They banned most guns in New Zealand after THEIR last massacre, and in the UK .. working, functioning democracies.

You stupid, stupid cunt. You and all your gun-loving compatriots. It seems you will never learn.. and THAT’s why your country has one if the highest murder rates in the world, and why it’s a shit hole.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Wow you went to a lot of trouble there to write so much horseshit. It's almost as if you are... wrong... and trying to deflect and mention dumb talking points that non-Americans say to themselves to feel superior to a country which outdoes them in almost every perceivable way. Funny.

Love how you failed to mention how the existing gun culture here is so extensive, that banning guns presents a problem as only criminals would have them, and there are a lot of criminals with guns here. You are disarming yourself and even though I have a stronger chance of being struck by lightning than being robbed where I live here in the US, the best defense against an armed criminal is being armed yourself. You call me a "cunt", yet you're the one who refuses to have access to a weapon. It would appear that between your legs is a ...cunt.

Also it's clear you've never been to the states. We're not a shit hole. Well maybe Chicago, New York and L.A. Those are shit holes. 80% of America is a decent place to live and raise children. Stop being so emotional. Make sure you wipe front to back when you go pee pee.

[Timoteus]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyOutpost ↗

Wow you went to a lot of trouble there to write so much horseshit. It's almost as if you are... wrong... and trying to deflect and mention dumb talking points that non-Americans say to themselves to feel superior to a country which outdoes them in almost every perceivable way. Funny.

Love how you failed to mention how the existing gun culture here is so extensive, that banning guns presents a problem as only criminals would have them, and there are a lot of criminals with guns here. You are disarming yourself and even though I have a stronger chance of being struck by lightning than being robbed where I live here in the US, the best defense against an armed criminal is being armed yourself. You call me a "cunt", yet you're the one who refuses to have access to a weapon. It would appear that between your legs is a ...cunt.

Also it's clear you've never been to the states. We're not a shit hole. Well maybe Chicago, New York and L.A. Those are shit holes. 80% of America is a decent place to live and raise children. Stop being so emotional. Make sure you wipe front to back when you go pee pee.

“The existing gun culture here is so extensive, that banning guns presents a problem as only criminals would have them”..

Yet another argument from Gun-Kissing Dumbots that simply doesn’t work. Why?

Guns are in the hands of criminals in every country in the world, but amongst developed countries, it’s only the US has the kind of gun deaths associated with War Zones. So why is that?

You grew up watching Clint Eastwood and Sly Stallone, leading to inadequate paranoid pricks like you joining the army so you can hold a loud bang-bang penis extension machine to kill the Bad Guys.

But gun violence isn’t like the movies is it.. it’s often non-criminals shooting non-criminals.. anyone normal KNOWS that.

So hey, why not dodge the issue and declare that ‘I must be wrong’, or hey, I’m a crybaby girlie without a penis, instead of actually producing a valid argument, you sad, weak, dumb, PTSD addled fuck.

[WhiskeyOutpost]

Didn't read the majority of your reply as it is largely knee-jerk ad hominem and emotional arguments which fall short.

If you're trying to make me mad, try harder. I've shot people far more intimidating and impressive than you will ever be. Freedom-loving persons across the world wouldn't bleed a drop of their blood for your type, and according to my Aussie friend I screenshotted your replies to, he wouldn't either. Gutless modern day liberals who haven't sacrificed a thing in their lives who don't have a clue. Like I said make sure you wipe that cunt front to back, wouldn't want to get an infection.

[mischiefmammal]

grisly

[El_Guapo]

"Timoteus" spouts his anti-gun BS and hatred of Americans in other threads too, and then disappears when confronted with facts. Like I posted in another thread with links to my sources:
The US ranks 28th in deaths by firearms; over 60% of those firearm deaths are suicides; 94% of mass shootings occur in gun-free zones and the vast majority of murders by firearms occur in leftist shitholes like Chicago and Baltimore. More people get shot and/or die each weekend in Chicago than get killed in the rare mass shootings we have in the US.
"Timoteus" clearly knows nothing about America except what he reads or watches on biased media outlets.

[El_Guapo]

Originally Posted by Timoteus ↗

You pathetic ignorant dipshit. Immigration is not the major cause of crime in the USA.. GUN OWNERSHIP is the major cause of crime in the USA. Only a conspiracy-swallowing Trumptard would think otherwise.. there are millions of non-European immigrants in the UK and the EU, but there isn’t a mass-shooting on our side of the Atlantic about once a week. There is on yours: think about it. I mean, REALLY THINK about that, before replying.

The US doesn't have mass shootings once a week you melodramatic bitch. Western Europe may not have shootings, but they have more stabbings and beheadings than most of the US.

Legal immigrants are some of the most patriotic people in the US. I like them more than the twats that were born here, have it easy, take everything for granted and still whine about how bad everything is.

You know what would blow your mind? Go talk to some legal immigrants in the US and see how much they love this country compared to where they immigrated from. Even the illegal immigrants love this country more than where they came from, that's why many risked their lives to come here.

I'm a first generation American whose parents moved here and busted their asses to make a better life for their family. That's probably the same story for a large percentage of the US.

[Farticus81]

Originally Posted by El_Guapo ↗

"Timoteus" spouts his anti-gun BS and hatred of Americans in other threads too, and then disappears when confronted with facts. Like I posted in another thread with links to my sources:
The US ranks 28th in deaths by firearms; over 60% of those firearm deaths are suicides; 94% of mass shootings occur in gun-free zones and the vast majority of murders by firearms occur in leftist shitholes like Chicago and Baltimore. More people get shot and/or die each weekend in Chicago than get killed in the rare mass shootings we have in the US.
"Timoteus" clearly knows nothing about America except what he reads or watches on biased media outlets.

The US is actually a whole lot worse than that when it comes to firearm deaths and it's not much to boast about when each country higher on the list is a developing/3rd world shithole. Not sure why you'd even bring that up as if you think it somehow makes the US look good rather than doing the exact opposite.

As for the rest of this tired rubbish, it's always funny when people bring up gun suicides as if that extra problem of so many people killing themselves who have easy access to a gun (an elevated risk factor for suicide) somehow nullifies or can draw attention away from the ridiculously high homicide rate where guns are used the overwhelming majority of the time.

And this "gun free zone" and "leftist" city bullshit, it's just so meaningless and weak as an argument about proper gun control. You can completely erase Chicago (since you singled it out) from the statistics and it would barely make a 3% dent in the murder rate. We're talking about a country that has outright failed to stop the proliferation of guns to the point that it's completely flooded with them and any idiot can get their hands on one with no effort at all. All you've proven by bringing that up is that of course just pissing around having small pockets around the country with tighter laws doesn't solve the underlying problem and it would obviously have to start in a consistent way at a federal level.

Anyway I don't care what the US does, personally for the rest of us it might be a good thing because there's traditionally been a huge factor of "don't become like the US" when it comes to shaping gun laws. The only rational arguments to me why the US can't change is for one that it might be too far gone, and also that it would be very hard politically (because of the constitutional amendment) and culturally. I think it's important though to push back against propaganda that attempts to justify the gun situation there as if it's a cancer that needs to be contained in your borders, we can't be complacent about letting it spread.

[El_Guapo]

Originally Posted by Farticus81 ↗

The US is actually a whole lot worse than that when it comes to firearm deaths and it's not much to boast about when each country higher on the list is a developing/3rd world shithole. Not sure why you'd even bring that up as if you think it somehow makes the US look good rather than doing the exact opposite.

As for the rest of this tired rubbish, it's always funny when people bring up gun suicides as if that extra problem of so many people killing themselves who have easy access to a gun (an elevated risk factor for suicide) somehow nullifies or can draw attention away from the ridiculously high homicide rate where guns are used the overwhelming majority of the time.

And this "gun free zone" and "leftist" city bullshit, it's just so meaningless and weak as an argument about proper gun control. You can completely erase Chicago (since you singled it out) from the statistics and it would barely make a 3% dent in the murder rate. We're talking about a country that has outright failed to stop the proliferation of guns to the point that it's completely flooded with them and any idiot can get their hands on one with no effort at all. All you've proven by bringing that up is that of course just pissing around having small pockets around the country with tighter laws doesn't solve the underlying problem and it would obviously have to start in a consistent way at a federal level.

Anyway I don't care what the US does, personally for the rest of us it might be a good thing because there's traditionally been a huge factor of "don't become like the US" when it comes to shaping gun laws. The only rational arguments to me why the US can't change is for one that it might be too far gone, and also that it would be very hard politically (because of the constitutional amendment) and culturally. I think it's important though to push back against propaganda that attempts to justify the gun situation there as if it's a cancer that needs to be contained in your borders, we can't be complacent about letting it spread.

That sounds exactly like what a Euro eunuch would say. I personally like a man with testosterone that can handle a gun and owns more than I do. As I say to all of the pussies that look down their noses at Americans, please don't visit our country and don't try to push your shitty politics on us. As for being "too far gone", I hope you're not from the EU because that would be too ironic.