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02-21-2020, 02:26 AM
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 My Rank: MAJOR Poster Rank:161 SCARY BLACK. BOO BITCH! Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 9,672 Mentioned: 45 Post(s) Quoted: 2426 Post(s)
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Re: Brazil - Bodies of 2 Missing Teenage Girls Found in a Stream Shot Dead
Who is the woman in the smiling alive pictures? She doesn’t look like either or the 2 girls being led away at gunpoint/picture of them sitting on steps. The woman looks way older than both of these 2 girls. She also has large size breasts than the 2 girls. And her eyebrows do not match either of these 2 girls....  |
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02-23-2020, 01:45 AM
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 My Rank: FIRST SERGEANT Poster Rank:373 Dickless Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,178 Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Quoted: 2028 Post(s)
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Re: Brazil - Bodies of 2 Missing Teenage Girls Found in a Stream Shot Dead
Age doesn't matter in the world of outlaws. They were old enough to play the game; they were old enough to pay the price.
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03-04-2020, 03:56 AM
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| My Rank: GUNNERY SERGEANT Poster Rank:697 Male Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,219 Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Quoted: 257 Post(s)
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Re: Brazil - Bodies of 2 Missing Teenage Girls Found in a Stream Shot Dead
I think you're missing the point. As a society we come to an agreement that abusing kids is wrong. It's not a case of it being a matter of fact, but a matter of agreement on shared values. It doesn't need to be 100% true. Just likely true enough. Obviously not everyone will agree with that, or acccept the same definition. The promotion of health a well being is the baseline most people will agree on. Failing to agree on that means failing to agree that life is worth living and thus makes all other points rather moot. I wouldn't blame someone for holding a view that child rape is good. But I would call them out as being wrong and attempt to address the issue. How long was your course? |
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03-04-2020, 07:52 AM
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| The Candyman With the Windowless Van Poster Rank:141 Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 11,548 Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Quoted: 6130 Post(s)
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Re: Brazil - Bodies of 2 Missing Teenage Girls Found in a Stream Shot Dead
We have been talking past each other to a large extent. I have no argument against what you say about how societies function in arriving at what we call "moral" judgments. As you note, certain practices and principles may attain nearly universal acceptance in a given society. When a handful of people depart from them others act so as to punish them and/or bring them back into line with the general consensus. All of this is standard practice in all known societies. On the assumption that determinism is true, however, all of this activity takes on a different cast. All of the human actions, including vocalizations, writings, and other communicative activities are exactly as they must be since they are the inevitable results of the past states of the universe and the laws of nature. This includes labeling some people's actions as "right" or "wrong" and the actions taken to mitigate and control the behavior of others. The entire dance takes place in accordance with a prearranged and unchangeable choreography. What this implies is that the attribution of genuine moral predicates (not merely the "calling out", labeling, and behavior influencing activities) to human actions has no rational basis. The reason is that such attributions, to be meaningful, must presuppose at least the possibility that the persons concerned could have done otherwise than they in fact did. For example, when person "A" says to person "B": "What you did to your wife was wrong", "A" is making the tacit (usually unstated) assumption that "B" actually could have behaved otherwise than he did toward his wife on the occasion indicated. ("A" may even suggest what a more appropriate behavior would have been.) On determinism, this assumption is false. We use the words "right", "wrong", "good", "bad", etc. since we are determined to use them, and such usage does have effects on behaviors. You recognize this situation when you comment that you wouldn't blame someone who thought that some activity generally considered to be abhorrent, is good, although you would "call them out" and attempt to address the situation (assuming that you are determined so to do - a necessary caveat if we assume determinism). I believe in the final analysis there is less disagreement between us than may at first appear to be the case. My course was a one semester, 3 credit undergraduate selection in general ethics. I also taught specialized branches (e.g. medical ethics to nursing students and business ethics). |
