[Susan]

Originally Posted by denemarsden ↗

he doesn't have a brain whats left of his skull is empty

It can't be completely empty. It would have to at least have the brainstem left for this to be happening.

[dockman]

Originally Posted by slyksleevemuckyey ↗

I always wonder with stuff like this, seeing as they say there has to be no brain function for someone to be truly dead, is he still alive, because obviously there is some sort of function going on in the brain to control the breathing that is still happening.

I may be wrong about this since I'm no expert, but there's a couple of video shots of his chest as his mouth is opening. I don't see the chest rising. I think it's the mouth going through the motions and the diaphragm is unable to expand, keeping the lungs from sucking in the air.
Any thoughts?

[dockman]

Not getting any definitive answers on search engines on the topic. So many medical opinions.

[Oswald2001]

Originally Posted by slyksleevemuckyey ↗

It can't be completely empty. It would have to at least have the brainstem left for this to be happening.

Yep. Brainstem.

Can't last though, of course.



"In the anatomy of humans and of many other vertebrates, the brainstem (or brain stem) is the posterior part of the brain, adjoining and structurally continuous with the spinal cord. In humans it is usually described as including the medulla oblongata (myelencephalon), pons (part of metencephalon), and midbrain (mesencephalon)."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainstem

[Susan]

Originally Posted by dockman ↗

I may be wrong about this since I'm no expert, but there's a couple of video shots of his chest as his mouth is opening. I don't see the chest rising. I think it's the mouth going through the motions and the diaphragm is unable to expand, keeping the lungs from sucking in the air.
Any thoughts?

I'm definitely no expert on it but from what I've read before agonal breathing is more "gasping" than actually taking oxygen in as you would with regular breathing. If any oxygen got through to the lungs at all, it wouldn't be much.

[dockman]

Originally Posted by slyksleevemuckyey ↗

I'm definitely no expert on it but from what I've read before agonal breathing is more "gasping" than actually taking oxygen in as you would with regular breathing. If any oxygen got through to the lungs at all, it wouldn't be much.

That's what I came across as well. Thanks slyksleevemuckyey.

[Susan]

Originally Posted by dockman ↗

That's what I came across as well. Thanks slyksleevemuckyey.

[11B2P]

Brainstem is most likely intact causing this "breathing" reflex.

[Vamooska]

Now that....is some creepy shite.

[Wiley]

Originally Posted by slyksleevemuckyey ↗

I always wonder with stuff like this, seeing as they say there has to be no brain function for someone to be truly dead, is he still alive, because obviously there is some sort of function going on in the brain to control the breathing that is still happening.

Like what I was thinking
I've been sure I was going to die, going in and out of consciousness after receiving the major brain injury and I know I was having thoughts I can't remember them