[midwestguy]

Visit Brazil! Nightly murders for your videotaping pleasure.

[kasapin]

Originally Posted by joelhall1963 ↗

Of course they would have shot her anyway, no witness! Anyone that thinks otherwise is crazy!

you've been watching way too many movies.. witness to what ? a phone getting mugged? wow...

[SimoneFlen']

Originally Posted by bigsnail34 ↗

All this victim-blaming is astounding to me. Think through this scenario empathetically and honestly; how many of your peers, at 18, would have handled an armed robbery with aplomb? How would you have reacted?

Put yourself in her position. It's dark, it's late, you're thinking about your birthday festivities - the stupid thing your best friend said, those awful boots that woman was wearing, how that cute guy kept smiling at you. And then you're jarred into the present by a man who has appeared out of nowhere to block your path. He's yelling at you to give him your phone; you're scared, confused, and your initial reaction is to freeze and reflexively say something like, "What? Leave me alone!" And then the shot, and you're gone before you even grasped the gravity of the situation.

Well said. People panic in that situation or are confused as they weren't expecting it. I'm sure she never realised that she would lose her life if she didn't hand over her phone.

The girl was with her boyfriend + relatives, so the other poster stating that she was shot because she saw the phone thief, means that her boyfriend + family should've been shot too, witnesses + all!

[booboo2718]

The photo after all the selfies shows a guy standing next to the bathroom.

[TypeOnegative]

Originally Posted by bigsnail34 ↗

All this victim-blaming is astounding to me.

It’s not victim blaming to say that you are responsible for your own actions and reactions. It may not be your fault that you find yourself in a bad situation, but you’re there and it’s your responsibility and your responsibility alone to do or not do what is necessary to overcome the obstacle in front of you. Your family could die in a car accident right now. You weren’t there. It’s not your fault. But your new circumstance as a person who lost your family is your responsibility to cope with and nobody elses.

Nobody is blaming the victim for pointing the gun at herself. That’s nonsense. They’re saying her inaction may have caused her to lose her life, while a different action would have simply caused her to lose her phone. To suggest any different is to say that we’re all irresponsibly floating through life without any say in how we react to the shit that happens around us.

I’ll say this, there isn’t a single video or picture on this site that the “victim” wasn’t responsible for. Levels of responsibility vary, but all of us carry that burden for ourselves and the events that unfold around us. This isn’t a world of perpetrators and victims. It’s a world of thrivers and survivors. Victim mentality has never helped anybody so get out of here with that bullshit. The difference between a victim and a survivor is that the survivor accepts the burden of responsibility regardless of the situation they’re in is their own fault or not.

[BigSnail34]

Originally Posted by TypeOnegative ↗

It’s not victim blaming to say that you are responsible for your own actions and reactions. It may not be your fault that you find yourself in a bad situation, but you’re there and it’s your responsibility and your responsibility alone to do or not do what is necessary to overcome the obstacle in front of you. Your family could die in a car accident right now. You weren’t there. It’s not your fault. But your new circumstance as a person who lost your family is your responsibility to cope with and nobody elses.

Nobody is blaming the victim for pointing the gun at herself. That’s nonsense. They’re saying her inaction may have caused her to lose her life, while a different action would have simply caused her to lose her phone. To suggest any different is to say that we’re all irresponsibly floating through life without any say in how we react to the shit that happens around us.

I’ll say this, there isn’t a single video or picture on this site that the “victim” wasn’t responsible for. Levels of responsibility vary, but all of us carry that burden for ourselves and the events that unfold around us. This isn’t a world of perpetrators and victims. It’s a world of thrivers and survivors. Victim mentality has never helped anybody so get out of here with that bullshit. The difference between a victim and a survivor is that the survivor accepts the burden of responsibility regardless of the situation they’re in is their own fault or not.

Right. Some of your points are valid, others are...not.

So, "responsibility" necessarily requires agency (though volition is actually the more appropriate term). When you are acted upon by a sentient entity - let's say an alpaca with nothing to lose, carrying a section of a 2x4 board with 2 20D nails protruding from the business end - it can take anywhere from none (like a regular alpaca frolicking in the Andes) to all (like that son-of-a-bitch with the board) of your agency, the latter leaving you unable to accept responsibility because you have no ability to make decisions.

Let's say the vile alpaca sneaks up behind you and hits you so hard his board cleaves your head in twain. Where was your responsibility there? The only choice you had was a split head. You had no say, and are therefore not responsible for your demise. Or, he threatens to hit you if you don't immediately give him the contact information of the coolest guy in the world, which, naturally, would be a yeti eating frozen spaghetti. "Oh, my bad Mr. deranged alpaca, my phone is dead." BAM! And there goes your brain, gliding through the air on a parabolic course like an arrow loosed from a longbow. Again, you had no agency, because circumstance dictated you did not have the ability to alter the situation.

The thing is, responsibility simply does not extend past the primary and ancillary decision-making processes directly related to the object of your responsibility; i.e., you absolutely cannot say that I bear responsibility for getting hit by a drunk driver because my actions put me on the sidewalk at the wrong time. Because that would extend the course of your responsibility back through every decision you ever made to put yourself there, one after the other - "If you'd strangled yourself with your umbilical cord as a fetus, you wouldn't be in this position" - and all the way through the entirety of everything else to have ever happened. Meaning that it is meaningless to try to assign responsibility in that way, as the only choice you would logically have would be to blame every issue on the cosmic inflation of the big bang.

My point was that the girl bears no responsibility because I strongly suspect that her specific circumstances led to a situation in which there was absolutely no possibility of her being yet alive.

[Kinalace]

This is why you carry a weapon on you at all times. Theives need to be eliminated and just handing over your property encourages more theivery. People will do whatever sick shit they can get away with. If everyone starts shooting theives in the face people will eventually get the point.

[rafaelfy]

maybe she have some nudes and s3x vids on her phone that's why she didnt give it O_O

[DanteAntonelli]

Originally Posted by kasapin ↗

several thousand dollars in the states is also something simple like a cast...

Ecuadorian earns 4,000 a day in N.Y.
The pediculosis treatment costs from $800 to $1000 dollars