[Djurplagare]

Mothers like mothers... others are good caring, some are not. But in this case you actually can't say it's all her fault, she was going trough a depression, like me I know it can be very tough, and pluses you with another person (baby) inside your life makes life's easier? For example a baby's crying 24/7 can make your shit even shiter, e..?

I'm not telling you to kill all those beautiful, cute babies in a raw, one in one, chopping... life's definitely get harder when you're not alright and then taking it on your whole body and forgetting you're pregnant, I telling you it can come just like that, she didn't plan her anxiety, eh?
About her pregnancy it's all about the time she did had her time feeling well and then this happens, psychic nightmares turns to worst, when does it stops?? Normal "mamma" that just wants to live for her child and takes over by overdoses of psych and sadness, wheres the blame on her in that you say???

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Originally Posted by Nve ↗

@Enter text...I do agree with a lot of points you make, it is a pride thing, women feel they are meant to bond instantly with their babies, and when they don't they feel like failure's(it takes time, not everyone falls instantly in love with their children, this is a whole new person to get to know)...add this to a chemical imbalance from hormone levels dropping dramatically after the birth, lack of sleep, it all spirals out of control. My ex-husband would constantly tell me to "get help" and in the state of mind I was in I just thought he was accusing me of being a really bad parent...you don't want to admit that you aren't coping!!

Originally Posted by Nve ↗

But this to me looks like neglect...IMO anyway...which could mean shite to others...meh...my point being that after my kids were born, for a full year a midwife would come to the house once a week to weigh and chart progress of the baby, a lot of states do this now and have done for many years...depending on where this case is from she may have not had that opportunity or service available to her..

Which State do you live in, Nve? A service like that may be an optional thing if the mother so chooses, but it's certainly not a compulsory thing that is forced on the parent/s of a newborn.. well, at least not in Victoria or Queensland anyway.

And that's pretty much the crux of what I'm saying - if the mother has no partner, friends or family to force help for her depression to be sought.. then it's the welfare of the child that's gonna suffer.. and noone would know a damn thing about the extent of the problem.

This may very well be a case of straight up neglect.. but I can just as easily see that it's a sad case of genuine depression where help wasn't able to be gotten before it spiralled outta control.

Originally Posted by Nve672802

and some mum's just don't give a rat's arse what happens to their kids.

Yeah, I get what you're saying there, Nve.. but I was only talking specifically about legitimate cases of post-natal depression, not blatant not giving a damn neglect.

[BobSaaget]

Fuck her. She needs some motherhood lessons.

[Nve]

ahh crap I said weekly when I meant monthly, I was just looking through the health care books with their details...

My first child was born in Victoria(albeit 14 years ago, 8 of those from the time he was 8 months I spent alone with him) I had a midwife come to the house two days after I got home from the hospital then once a month for the first year, and my second was in born in Western Australia(5years ago)it was the same routine....it's not so much a compulsory thing, it's more of a this is what we ARE going to be doing....make sense? It was thrust on most new mums around the times when my kids were born.

Thankfully someone in this case did notice, there are so many that go unnoticed until it is too late. I agree some people are quick to judge, and from experience they are usually the ones that have not experienced PND first hand or have from a detached stance ie..husband, friends. I am just saying from someone that has gone through it, that you know what you are supposed to be doing and to a degree you get on with it, but there is no joy, I did all the bathing, feeding, nappy changes, did the creams, smiled at the right times in all the pics...etc...I hated it at times because I was not enjoying my child, emotionally I had detached, but I still knew what had to be done even if it was automated responses...what I am saying is even at my lowest of low's when all I wanted to do was give my child away then go slam my car into the nearest Truck I still knew deep within me that this tiny little creature depended on ME...maybe I am being closed minded in instantly thinking this case is neglect, because I have been there, I have walked in those shoes, they may not have fitted the same, but I walked in them...I will say that each case of PND is different, but there is a check list that almost every mother who has suffered it could say they have ticked the same boxes.

It is however great to see someone that hasn't had kids yet herself being able to show empathy...more should!

[TonyTaurus]

i'd give him all the love he needs<3

[TristranW]

Aww poor lil thing. I do feel sorry for women with post-partum depression or psychosis, but DAMMIT you'd think SOMEONE would be able to see what was going on with this poor lil baby?

Glad little one is in a better home now though. Hopefully (s)he won't remember all this or suffer for life because of it :( Hope they can drug up the mother and make her a decent parent too, cause God knows no one who goes through PPD or PPP does that in their right mind. I hope the people around her who saw this shit going on and didn't get her and the baby help get the damn book throw at them though.

[Jere]

only a skank! not a mother would do this regardless.