[AEK_ATHENS_GR]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

It makes the US look like a bunch of petulant, weak-ass little amateurs. Like a tin-pot dictator nation throwing its weight around to prove a point.

Lol, completely the opposite happened internationally!
Democrats are delusional even about foreign reactions.
Everybody in the world today are rolling eyes and quietly says what US are capable of.

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by AEK_ATHENS_GR ↗

Lol, completely the opposite happened internationally!
Democrats are delusional even about foreign reactions.
Everybody in the world today are rolling eyes and quietly says what US are capable of.

Um, no? No one gives a fuck what you Greeks think. Go back to putting your own busted-ass excuse for a nation back together and stop pretending like you have a clue what 'everybody in the world today' are doing.

I have relatives and friends in more than 30 different countries, from the UK to Mexico to China to Sweden and I can assure you that they are not impressed with this bullshit.

Sure, it's anecdotal. As anecdotal as your bullshit. Which is my point. I don't speak for the international community. Neither do you. Your statement was beyond worthless.

And, not for nothing, but I've never been a Democrat. I've been a registered Republican since George HW Bush. I'm even inclined to be somewhat hawkish. But hawk republicans in my day didn't make a habit of publicly assassinating top military generals of UN member states and then bragging about it to the press. We elected ex-CIA ******. And when we DID elect actors, they at least had the sense to listen to the ******.

If Trump had been in office during the fucking Cold War, we'd all be speaking Russian today. Or scavenging on slag heaps for food.

[AEK_ATHENS_GR]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

Um, no? No one gives a fuck what you Greeks think. Go back to putting your own busted-ass excuse for a nation back together and stop pretending like you have a clue what 'everybody in the world today' are doing.

I have relatives and friends in more than 30 different countries, from the UK to Mexico to China to Sweden and I can assure you that they are not impressed with this bullshit.

Sure, it's anecdotal. As anecdotal as your bullshit. Which is my point. I don't speak for the international community. Neither do you. Your statement was beyond worthless.

And, not for nothing, but I've never been a Democrat. I've been a registered Republican since George HW Bush. I'm even inclined to be somewhat hawkish. But hawk republicans in my day didn't make a habit of assassinating top military generals of UN member states and then bragging about it in public. We elected ex-CIA ******. And when we DID elect actors, they at least had the sense to listen to the ******.

If Trump had been in office during the fucking Cold War, we'd all be speaking Russian today. Or scavenging on slag heaps for food.

Assumptions.
Also it is not anecdotal. Israel does that kind of strikes. Do you think that the world sees Israel as "weak amateurs" and all the other shit you said?
That Iranian terrorist was killed in another sovereign state where he went to provoke chaos and organised attacks against US embassy.
USA did not kill anyone on his sovereign soil, you have confused many things...

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by AEK_ATHENS_GR ↗

Assumptions.
Also it is not anecdotal. Israel does that kind of strikes. Do you think that the world sees Israel as "weak amateurs" and all the other shit you said?
That Iranian terrorist was killed in another sovereign state where he went to provoke chaos and organised attacks against US embassy.
USA did not kill anyone on his sovereign soil, you have confused many things...

Are you kidding me? It didn't matter whether he was in Tehran or Baghdad at the time. This guy wasn't an international criminal hiding in a cave.

He was a top-level military official for a UN member state.

You think for one second it would make any difference to the US if our fucking CJCS took a rocket in the face in Baghdad rather than Washington DC?

You don't stage a public assassination of a high-ranking military official to save lives. You do it to provoke a war, in this case because the crooked moron is facing impeachment and polling low for an upcoming election and he wants attention off of his crimes and failures.

And handling the situation in this manner only inspires respect among tin-pot dictators and third world juntas. Not among civilized nations in the fucking 21st century.

[Morgasmgasm]

To safely and effectively lead a country, you have to be open to all considerations, perspectives, and be able to swallow difficult situations in order to maintain long-term goals that benefit the land you govern. Trump says the military commander was "planning strategic attacks against US forces in the imminent future" but refused to disclose what those "imminent attacks" were. They claim to have indisputable proof, to justify this...but where is it?

We are supposed to be civilized nations. If there was a threat of attack against the USA, the government would disclose this to prove they made the decision in the best interest of the people. Instead, they are claiming justification and gaslighting the American people into seeming "unpatriotic" to question their actions without reasons. Last i coupd discern, that's the type of shit fascist dictatorships do.

Here's some facts. For many, many years, we've sent "economic hitmen" to poor countries, which are poor either due to their demographical circumstances, or because the US has back-handedly caused economic crisis there. These "hitmen" represent our government, and attempt to convince leaders to give America full power over their resources. Namely, oil. If the leaders refuse, money and weapons are given to opposition groups to cause civil unrest to destabilize the area, until they have no other choice but to concede to what the US is offering.
Again, the only few countries who haven't agreed to America's "offer" have been in constant civil war since the Arab Spring. Assad was another leader who refused. Magically, ISIS appeared. But, ISIS back-fired, and many members (now fully loaded with weapons and funds) turned against the US when we stopped supplying them. AGAIN, i wonder where those billions/trillions of dollars the Pentagon lost went..

We were just thrown into ANOTHER perpetual war, which will come soon. Because war generates $$. And our government is ran by billionaires who pay tremendous amounts of money for certain outcomes in foreign affairs. They don't give a fuck what reprucussions come from that, and we're then left to deal with them, as unaware citizens.

[AEK_ATHENS_GR]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

Are you kidding me? It didn't matter whether he was in Tehran or Baghdad at the time. This guy wasn't an international criminal hiding in a cave.

He was a top-level military official for a UN member state.

You think for one second it would make any difference to the US if our fucking CJCS took a rocket in the face in Baghdad rather than Washington DC?

You don't stage a public assassination of a high-ranking military official to save lives. You do it to provoke a war, in this case because the crooked moron is facing impeachment and polling low for an upcoming election and he wants attention off of his crimes and failures.

And handling the situation in this manner only inspires respect among tin-pot dictators and third world juntas. Not among civilized nations in the fucking 21st century.

What impeachment? How many US Presidents were impeached? None.
Just because the President is not accountable politically to the Congress and the Congress has only the option to criminalise the political life does not mean that people fall for this.
Trump will be reelected easily.
Anyway, this move reminded the whole world how powerful US is.
That fucking Iranian casanova should think twice before attempting a new 1979.

[Morgasmgasm]

Okay, Athenian. The poor handling of this impending war will undoubtedly lead to a coup, and our entire system will be irreversibly fucked.

Sound familiar? Athens vs Makedonia? I don't think your opinion holds much ground, here.

[DeathsHead]

Kill em all

[Eldeanio100]

Originally Posted by Morgasmgasm ↗

All of you saying "fuck yeah" are fucking idiots and with cavemen mentality. Trump disregarded consulting anyone on this. The reason our President consults congress and other members of government is to gain insight on matters of peace and war. To simplify further - this is why we live in AMERICA and not KOREA with a fascist, communist dictatorship.
These matters need to be carefully deliberated, because now, we're being launched into ANOTHER massive war in the middle east that could easily become a third world war. Especially after the shit Trump pulled with the Northern Syria kurds when they were being attacked by Turkey and he pulled our allied troops out of the fight.
No loyalty, no trust, no morals. Not only does the world think we're a fucking joke, now we're abandoning our only allies and attacking their top military officials. The whole "Trump thinks the general had plans to attack US personnel" is a bullshit smokescreen to what's actually happening.
Which is, the US trying to bully Iraq and Iran into giving us full access to their oil fields. Our government has done it to many, many other countries. We go to a poor country and offer them millions to reboost their economy and offer to train their military, in exchange for ownership of their natural resources and exports. Desperate enough, many countries agreed because their people were dying in severe poverty. Only a few refused. Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt and Libya. Seems all our wars are centered in those areas, eh?

You idiots are blindly following a modern day Hitler in a blood crusade, except this bastard is more unstable and less strategic. Dangerous. Open your goddamn eyes. We're all in danger, now.

Ahh the same as Obama did when he had Bin Laden assassinated!

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by Eldeanio100 ↗

Ahh the same as Obama did when he had Bin Laden assassinated!

If you're too willfully ignorant to see the difference between the two situations, you're too fucking stupid to be breathing my air.

A covert strike against an international criminal hiding in a secret lair, disavowed by all but his terrorist sect is a far, far, far cry from firing a rocket in the face of a high-ranking military official for a UN member state.