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12-11-2018, 03:29 PM
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Re: Teen Kidnapped For Ransom, Then Strangled
In reality she really did get off easy. My company becomes involved in these cases trying to track down victims and return them to those who can afford to hire us we never go into it thinking we will get them back alive usually they go into a drum of 75% hydrogen peroxide or acid. We find them sometimes in drums full of concrete. She doesn’t appear to be raped and simple asphyxiation is better than some of the things we come across
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#44
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12-11-2018, 03:34 PM
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Re: Teen Kidnapped For Ransom, Then Strangled
Certainly, we have seen more painful and gruesome deaths perpetrated in this forum. She avoided everything from dismemberment to acid burns (as you mentioned) to slow decapitation. It definitely could have been worse. That said, ligature strangulation is pretty slow and brutal, often taking up to 3 or 4 minutes for the victim to lose consciousness. That's a lot of conscious time for both suffering and fear. This did not go easy for her. One of the killers, in trying to deflect some of the blame to the main guy in the truck, testified that the girl was crying and begging for her life when she felt the cord go around her neck, but the boss wouldn't have any of it and told them to hold her down while he strangled her. |
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#45
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12-11-2018, 04:34 PM
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Re: Teen Kidnapped For Ransom, Then Strangled
Yes by no means playing it down I’ve personally used a garrote more than a handful of times in my career to handle sentries and other combatants. If a person is trained and keeps the skill up it is fairly quick as you want to subdue the threat quickly and don’t want the escalation of a probable fist fight or that they could give away the position by sound of any kind. If you don’t have the training and skills like you said it is a longer process and unreasonable time to expiration. Like. I said by no means playing it down.
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#46
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12-11-2018, 04:53 PM
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Re: Teen Kidnapped For Ransom, Then Strangled
Yeah, I feel like once upon a time, these siccarios in northern Mexico got shit done with military (or at least paramilitary) precision. But those old-timers from the late 90's and early 2000's are all dead or in prison now and the guys doing the work today are little better than thugs or butchers, getting most of their training in the streets if at all.
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12-11-2018, 05:09 PM
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Re: Teen Kidnapped For Ransom, Then Strangled
Absolutely when you look at the fact that we actually trained the Mexican SF ie Zetas it says a lot about the fact that we produce such proficient warriors. They started to deviate from out training with their new blood in their training compounds and Had to lower the standards to keep more people training they truly had the to be on top of the whole thing but cutting corners in training is just as bad as getting high on your own supply.
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12-11-2018, 05:15 PM
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Re: Teen Kidnapped For Ransom, Then Strangled
You either have a reading comprehension problem or did not read the entire article. The killer was her girl's mothers ex-boyfriend. The ex-boyfriend had no intention of collecting the ransom and only wanted to kill the girl to get back at the mother. |