[lovelylucinda]

Was thinking the same poor girl..if that was the extent of her life a shed and nothing to look forward too then can't blame her for taking her own life,it's very sad thanks for the post

[icehole]

I certainly hope that nobody will mention that her feet were on the floor so that this was a murder

[FrankRagsdale]

not sure how her feet got flat on the floor if she used that stool but whatever
also she peed her pants while dying, you can see the stains on her jeans

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by icehole ↗

I certainly hope that nobody will mention that her feet were on the floor so that this was a murder

Her feet were mentioned in some of the social media threads. The reporter I procured the pics from also said that there were concerns brought up about the position of her feet, but that ultimately the police disregarded them since her body had numerous signs of hanging and she had a known history of depression.

The reporter was at the scene and I discussed it with him at some length regarding the positioning of the body, etc. He said he didn't see any signs of external violence when they took the noose off and lowered her.

He didn't include any photos of her corpse once lowered, but most everything he mentioned noticing at the scene is visible in the images. Finger positioning, noose placement, lack of sphincter control. It's a little difficult to see through her hair, but her tongue is also swollen and protruding. Not visible in the image, but mentioned by the reporter were the ligature mark matching the contours of the noose and the fact that her eyes were partially open and displaying conjunctival petechiae.

So yeah, people were worried about her feet, but the evidence for hanging suicide was pretty strong and the family agreed to it.

As a side note, her maternal grandfather, to whom she was apparently close, had died 2 weeks earlier and her final Facebook message was a photo of his coffin and the line, "Goodbye, grandpa. We will see each other soon!"

[Sharon]

A sobering case

[icehole]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

Her feet were mentioned in some of the social media threads. The reporter I procured the pics from also said that there were concerns brought up about the position of her feet, but that ultimately the police disregarded them since her body had numerous signs of hanging and she had a known history of depression.

The reporter was at the scene and I discussed it with him at some length regarding the positioning of the body, etc. He said he didn't see any signs of external violence when they took the noose off and lowered her.

He didn't include any photos of her corpse once lowered, but most everything he mentioned noticing at the scene is visible in the images. Finger positioning, noose placement, lack of sphincter control. It's a little difficult to see through her hair, but her tongue is also swollen and protruding. Not visible in the image, but mentioned by the reporter were the ligature mark matching the contours of the noose and the fact that her eyes were partially open and displaying conjunctival petechiae.

So yeah, people were worried about her feet, but the evidence for hanging suicide was pretty strong and the family agreed to it.

As a side note, her maternal grandfather, to whom she was apparently close, had died 2 weeks earlier and her final Facebook message was a photo of his coffin and the line, "Goodbye, grandpa. We will see each other soon!"

Thanks for the additional info, Ved!!
You always got the background info from the trustworthy source

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by icehole ↗

Thanks for the additional info, Ved!!
You always got the background info from the trustworthy source

Well, not always, unfortunately. But whenever I can manage to talk to a primary source, I try to post the results here.

[Budd Dwyer]

Originally Posted by Bastet ↗

Me neither She has a sad gaze in most of her ante mortem photos. I wouldn't be surprised if her living conditions were less than ideal. At least her "room" looks pretty unsanitary.

However, thanks for your effort, Vedderman!

Sad gaze, but she could have been find a good bf/gf or husband....
Depression comes from extreme poverty, undersocialized environment, then these young chicks offing themselves as they see it as an easy way....sad

[Faust]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

Yeah. I dunno what all problems she had, but the fact that her bedroom closely resembles the outdoor shed where we kept the older lawn implements we never used when I was growing up certainly could not help. So many comorbidities for young people seem to crop up with deep poverty as a nexus point. Physical and mental abuse, substance abuse, early sexual activity, teen pregnancy, poor health, no preventative medicine, weak nutrition, poor education...it all stacks up to equal some serious developmental hurdles.

Not that all that shit can't also cause problems for upper middle class white kids in California...but it is seldom surprising to me that the youth suicide rate in the third world dwarves that of developed nations.

And at the end of it all, she winds up half-wrapped in a blanket and tossed on the back of a dirty pickup truck with her new shoes sticking out the bottom. A depressingly short life basically lived for nothing and ended with no dignity or purpose.

Damn that hit hard, well said

[rambbb]

You can see the sadness in her eyes rest in peace