[SimoneFlen']

Originally Posted by Yoloman ↗

I dont know the copyright laws or how it works on the Net, with scum like Meatpie violating all norms and rules of conduct. Is there a way to get a permanent injunction against him and his sites?

I have no idea; Ved' or Chris would be the better ones to ask about that.

Though, Ved' posting this thread: https://www.documentingreality.com/f...uicide-221427/ has royally pissed off that MeatPie necro cunt, ahaha!

Better watch out, Ved', the necro's after you + whomever gave you the set, muhahaha! I bet you're quaking in your boots...

[Vedderman]

I have been provided with links to over 5GB of content from Meatpie's 'secret room.'

They were provided by site members of both sites who feel that Meatpie's continual theft of our content and background write-ups is unethical and should be punished. They have asked me to post this material on their behalf because they know Meatpie is a crook and are afraid he will steal their payment info if they post it here themselves.

I put up that 'jumper' set to show Meatpie that we mean business here when we say to stop stealing my fucking work!

If he continues to steal our work and claim it as his own, then DR will continue to post sets that are sent directly to us, regardless of where they come from.

This is a very simple equation. I thought chris made all of this clear to him earlier today but I am not comforted to see that:
A-He continues to make threats and
B-that he continues to keep my work posted in his thread without due credit to me or DR.

[SimoneFlen']

The necro fucktard at CDG is losing his shit right now, it's hilarious, hahaha! The dumb cunt started this shit by constantly taking our content.

Good on you Ved', you stand your ground.

[popgoesthehead]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

I have been provided with links to over 5GB of content from Meatpie's 'secret room.'

They were provided by site members of both sites who feel that Meatpie's continual theft of our content and background write-ups is unethical and should be punished. They have asked me to post this material on their behalf because they know Meatpie is a crook and are afraid he will steal their payment info if they post it here themselves.

I put up that 'jumper' set to show Meatpie that we mean business here when we say to stop stealing my fucking work!

If he continues to steal our work and claim it as his own, then DR will continue to post sets that are sent directly to us, regardless of where they come from.

This is a very simple equation. I thought chris made all of this clear to him earlier today but I am not comforted to see that:
A-He continues to make threats and
B-that he continues to keep my work posted in his thread without due credit to me or DR.

Look around the site, you'll have probably noticed something that's changed over the last 5-6 years. High resolution, uncensored content is getting more difficult to come by. The posts of 2021 are nothing compared to what they were in say 2015. The days of HQ crime scene sets from Brazil are a thing of the past.

All posting (leaking) sensitive content will do is scare sources from sharing anymore content... this applies to all uncensored content... autopsy, crime scene... etc. If your goal is to shrink the already dwindling supply of uncensored, high quality post mortem imagery... well done I suppose.

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by popgoesthehead ↗

Look around the site, you'll have probably noticed something that's changed over the last 5-6 years. High resolution, uncensored content is getting more difficult to come by. The posts of 2021 are nothing compared to what they were in say 2015. The days of HQ crime scene sets from Brazil are a thing of the past.

All posting (leaking) sensitive content will do is scare sources from sharing anymore content... this applies to all uncensored content... autopsy, crime scene... etc. If your goal is to shrink the already dwindling supply of uncensored, high quality post mortem imagery... well done I suppose.

My 'goal' is to protect my intellectual property.

I invest countless hours in my work here. While much of the content that Simone and I come up with is not as 'exclusive' as what Meatpie hides behind the paywall, we both spend countless hours searching for, researching, translating, and compiling it.

90% of the content Meatpie posts publicly is posted on CDG less than an hour after we post it here.

In case the math is difficult for you, that means that I spend 5 hours compiling a photo set from 50 different sources. And Meatpie spends 5 minutes downloading it from here and placing it along with a cut/paste of my background writing on his site.

To condone this theft while decrying my posting of Meatpie's purchased content is to impute a higher value to Meatpie's cash than to my time. I find this unacceptable. I have endeavored for years to explain to him, you, and any other of his adherents that the time spent searching for and compiling these sets is valuable. As valuable as money, if not moreso.

He excuses his theft by claiming that the sets were publicly available and 'easy to find', yet he virtually never finds them until we post them here. Indeed, sets are easy to find when you have reverse image searches and background information because someone has already done all of the legwork.

You need to understand that I value my time (not to mention my writing, which is actually my primary profession off of this site) as equal to or greater than the money Meatpie may spend on more exclusive photos.

If you willfully fail to understand this than so be it.

Now, out of respect for the sense of commerce and for the money Meatpie does collect and spend on his hi-res images, I am willing to refrain from posting any more that have been sent to me, but only if he likewise refrains from posting and taking credit for the work we do here.

Spending 5 minutes to claim credit for a photo set that I spent 5 hours tracking down is unacceptable. Cut/pasting original written material is unacceptable.

All Meatpie has to do to make sure no further 'leaked' sets are posted is to stop reposting our work without giving us credit.

Even if all he did was write the simple line, "Thanks to DR for the find" when he reposted our work, we could live with it.

But I am done sitting idly by as he shamelessly steals my work and claims it as his own and then with the same breath declares war because we did the same with his findings. His financial investment does not trump my time and energy investment. Period. I am willing to assign them equal value if that gets this settled, but persisting in telling me that one is more valuable than the other is folly and will be treated as such.

Unlike CDG, our site does not 'dry up' if illegal secret room sources get scared and stop leaking images. Because DR doesn't rely on that content for its longevity. Most of our content here is provided with full backgrounds and extensive research of foreign news sources, as well as (in my case anyway) contacting primary and secondary source references.

We do a lot of work here for the content we provide. As I said, hours and hours a day of work just between Simone and I, let alone any others. Hi-res morgue photosets with zero background info and a bunch of closeups of vaginas and leaking guts are fine and good for CDG, but most of our users are far more interested in extensive research and background information to go with the photos we provide.

But once again, all that has to happen to stop any of this stuff from 'leaking' is that CDG needs to cease reposting our content there without giving credit to the people who spent hours researching and assembling it.

So I strongly suggest you address your concerns to your dear Bulgarian friend. Is refusal to credit DR's researchers with the photos that he only posts after finding them here truly worth risking his own secret content? Especially since you feel that most of our photos here are censored, low-res crap...why would he possibly continue risking his whole operation just to fuck us out of a simple "Thank you" for our not-insubstantial efforts?

[popgoesthehead]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

My 'goal' is to protect my intellectual property.

I invest countless hours in my work here. While much of the content that Simone and I come up with is not as 'exclusive' as what Meatpie hides behind the paywall, we both spend countless hours searching for, researching, translating, and compiling it.

90% of the content Meatpie posts publicly is posted on CDG less than an hour after we post it here.

In case you're too fucking ignorant to understand the math, that means that I spend 5 hours compiling a photo set from 50 different sources. And Meatpie spends 5 minutes downloading it from here and placing it along with a cut/paste of my background writing on his site.

To condone this theft while decrying my posting of Meatpie's purchased content is to impute a higher value to Meatpie's cash than to my time. I find this unacceptable. I have endeavored for years to explain to him, you, and any other of his adherents that the time spent searching for and compiling these sets is valuable. As valuable as money, if not moreso.

He excuses his theft by claiming that the sets were publicly available and 'easy to find', yet he virtually never finds them until we post them here. Indeed, sets are easy to find when you have reverse image searches and background information because someone has already done all of the legwork.

You need to understand that I value my time (let alone my writing, which is actually my primary profession off of this site) as equal to or greater than the money Meatpie may spend on more exclusive photos.

If you willfully fail to understand this than so be it.

Now, out of respect for the sense of commerce and for the money Meatpie does collect and spend on his hi-res images, I am willing to refrain from posting any more that have been sent to me, but only if he likewise refrains from posting and taking credit for the work we do here.

Spending 5 minutes to claim credit for a photo set that I spent 5 hours tracking down is unacceptable. Cut/pasting original written material is unacceptable.

All Meatpie has to do to make sure no further 'leaked' sets are posted is to stop reposting our work without giving us credit.

Even if all he did was write simple line, "Thanks to DR for the find" when he reposted our work, we could live with it.

But I am done sitting idly by as he shamelessly steals my work and claims it as his own and then with the same breath declares war because we did the same with his findings. His financial investment does not trump my time and energy investment. Period. I am willing to assign them equal value if that gets this settled, but persisting in telling me that one is more valuable than the other is folly and will be treated as such.

Unlike CDG, our site does not 'dry up' if illegal secret room sources get scared and stop leaking images. Because DR doesn't rely on that content for its longevity. Most of our content here is provided with full backgrounds and extensive research of foreign news sources, as well as (in my case anyway) contacting primary and source references.

We do a lot of work here for the content we provide. As I said, hours and hours a day of work just between Simone and I, let alone any others.

I absolutely understand you and Simone's concerns. You both do a remarkable job of compiling quality content, probably the most thorough and detailed job amongst all gore site users.

The issue I have is not your quarrel with Meatpie. I would also be flustered to find my hard work splashed across the internet without reference. My issue is insistence on a retaliatory post of what could be regarded as sensitive files.

It's important to understand that the content on CDG, like this site is not exclusively supplied by one individual, Meatpie in this example. Many CDG users and sources who have done nothing to you or Simone will potentially be effected by your leaks... possibly even catastrophically. That's where my concern stems.

I don't believe any of you or Simone's content should be posted on CDG at all, reference or not. If individuals wish to see your work they should come here to DR. Hopefully Meatpie will cease posting DR content in the regular forum, I understand he has vowed to cease uploads of specifically you and Simone's posts.

It is also a desire that sensitive CDG content not be leaked onto this public forum. I think this is a fair compromise.

Best wishes to you and no hard feelings. I simply hope to see this conflict resolved fairly between both parties.

[Vedderman]

Originally Posted by popgoesthehead ↗

Best wishes to you and no hard feelings. I simply hope to see this conflict resolved fairly between both parties.

I hope for the same but, as aforementioned, feel that it has gone on too long for me to be flexible with the terms. It's really in Meatpie's court now.

If he can respect our efforts then we too can respect his. It's the best for all parties. But, unfortunately, I've been here a long time and so has Meatpie. He's agreed to mutual respect in the past but then seen fit to re-define it on his own terms later down the line.

But I'll tell you this. If he abides fair play, then so will we.

That said, this applies to anything I know to have come from CDG. We have two users here who have verified for me that their Chinese morgue content comes from an external source aside from CDG and I will not restrict those people from posting their sets if they wish to share them.

Meatpie would be wise to start watermarking his exclusives as I assure you, I would not permit CDG-watermarked sets to remain here.

[spydius]

Originally Posted by jose87 ↗

because of meatpie There are no new photos in this set.

Not to get myself involved in the drama or anything, but most of what you see posted here/anywhere else was from a major leak(or was re-packaged to one) from China some years ago, prior to 2016. Most likely by someone who has the access to the cop's internal system. And most, if not all of these have been sold, then re-sold over and over before they even reached here/meatpie's. As such, I've always suspected that some of meatpie's "sources" were actually just the "dealers" and not the "trafficker", so to speak. But I guess it doesn't matter to him anyways.

but either way, the rest is obvious, if there ain't no update, there ain't gonna be no updates, ever. At least it ain't gonna be like what it used to be.

[Yoloman]

Originally Posted by spydius ↗

Not to get myself involved in the drama or anything, but most of what you see posted here/anywhere else was from a major leak(or was re-packaged to one) from China some years ago, prior to 2016. Most likely by someone who has the access to the cop's internal system. And most, if not all of these have been sold, then re-sold over and over before they even reached here/meatpie's. As such, I've always suspected that some of meatpie's "sources" were actually just the "dealers" and not the "trafficker", so to speak. But I guess it doesn't matter to him anyways.

but either way, the rest is obvious, if there ain't no update, there ain't gonna be no updates, ever. At least it ain't gonna be like what it used to be.

Patience. As soon as Akyan can return to china, all will be well on this thread upon his return.

[akyan]

We will see, finally receiving the Vaccine, lets see if it protects against the pandemic or I am receiving a micro chip.

I love this set, she's very special.