[dikky78]

brave soldiers in a war with no reason...

[Faust]

Originally Posted by Edyota ↗

Both sides are acting ridiculous. First of all, what these guys are doing isn't the teaching of Quran. God states in Quran that "If you kill one person unjustly, it is as if you killed the whole humanity, and if you saved one person, it is as if you saved the whole humanity". Quran gave rules of war, such as don't hurt the non-combatants, don't harm the properties of others, if the enemy want peace, give it to him etc etc etc. Quran actually encourages people to practices any religion they want. Quran states "“Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error.", "And I will not worship that which you are worshipping nor will you worship that which I worship. To you be your religion and to me my religion.".

I can explain how wonderful this religion truly is. Just because some Muslims do something wrong (which majority of the Muslim are against in the first place), you guys are getting so violent. Don't you see what Christians did/doing? It's just about individuals, not the collective society.

Seriously, we should condemn what some nut case extremists are doing AS WELL AS what some US troops did. But the hatred should be limited to them. There are plenty of brave, courageous US soldiers and there's plenty of noble Muslims. They are, and should be an exception.

so true.
also sorry but fuck the religions, this battle is not about religion, it is about oil. people mix that up because they don't want to feel bad about USA invading other countries.
If usa invade holland, then i will be the first to hang the usa soldiers, and cut their heads off.
and i'm cristian.

[DarwinsMistake]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

so true.
also sorry but fuck the religions, this battle is not about religion, it is about oil. people mix that up because they don't want to feel bad about USA invading other countries.
If usa invade holland, then i will be the first to hang the usa soldiers, and cut their heads off.
and i'm cristian.

So you are saying that the average US soldier is there fighting for oil?

I have to deeply disagree..Our national leaders have their own agenda but the soldier is just following orders..

As for a religious war most Americans couldnt give a rip about the religions involved.They are serving and doing their dutys as ordered and trying to stay alive.

Ask Pfc. Bowe R. Bergdahl (currently being held by the Taliban) what he thinks about oil?

The country is called the Netherlands, Holland is a province of the Netherlands, actually two provinces are called Holland. The country is called Nederland in Dutch (primarily) and officially the Kingdom of the Nederlanden (plural).

The Netherlands is a member of the UN, NATO and the EU. The would make all the current members of NATO their allies in the military sense, and all the European member nations of the EU even closer allies (27 nations).

The Netherlands is actively fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan, so that makes the Taliban their primary "enemy" today.

Seems you guys have chosen a side..This debate is getting out of hand..

This war is not about religion,race,color.Its suppose to be about stopping a worldwide threat.And yes this is a worldwide threat, as you have seen with other bombings and terrorist acts around the globe.Now if the USA's higher govt is doing this for oil and power (which I do not disagree with you on) thats much different then what our soldiers are being told in briefings..

Our soldiers are not the enemy..And unless you have a huge stash of oil there in Holland I am sure your safe..

[ImAFuckHead]

Originally Posted by ROYALBOY ↗

before starting the things make me join this fourm are some foto of usa troops proud of their crimes
i was searching for michkel jackson foto but i found some sick criminals so i decide to share mine

i read all comments most are silly i will answer them in bad way they talked ( ass , fuck , suck etc ) my religion prevent me to talk like that but i will answer them that
OUR LIFE SO CUTE AND NICE BUT YOU DISTROY IT IN SAVAGE MODE

It's not so cute and nice when your RELIGION is telling you not to say certain words.

[ROYALBOY]

Dears

OLD SKOOL
EDYOTA
Faust
DarwinsMistake

I would thank all of you for your Serious talking
I dont like to repeat that sorry for my broken language but i wish if you can understand what i try to express or mean

Ya this war not a religion war , near to 35% of arab world are cristian , in any arabian country it is easy to find many churshs in every where , the history never record that muslims arab killed cristian and distroy thier countries , but they save them and give him a choise between entering islam or payiny mony to save and serve serve them .

Please dont be like recorder listing and talking only , if you dont know about islam rules dont talk about it , islam never said to kill any one , prophet muhammad was asking muslim before any battels that dont kill any baby , womens , un warrior , and even dont cut trees .
even the Jews when europe throw them out and killing most of them , no one gave him a help like turkish muslim , they allow them to stay in muslim country , but the JEWS ARE JEWS , the perfidy and breach of trust are in their blood , any way this is not our object now but iam really happy if any need to talk about this in private .

Ya this is not a religion war , it is for oil , and you can ask bush why he said that Christ came to him in hiss dreams and told him to fight bagdad ? and ask him and his group about the milyars of dollars and about thier oils companies which they creat it behined this war .

Oh poor usa troops , some body playing you and sending you to wrong place , and iam sure if you ask any solder why you are here |? he will replay i dont know

there are no reason make him fight brave , for that you see him lean , poor , runing in the dark waitting time to return back his family and child .

thanks

[DarwinsMistake]

Originally Posted by ROYALBOY ↗

Dears

OLD SKOOL
EDYOTA
Faust
DarwinsMistake

I would thank all of you for your Serious talking
I dont like to repeat that sorry for my broken language but i wish if you can understand what i try to express or mean

Ya this war not a religion war , near to 35% of arab world are cristian , in any arabian country it is easy to find many churshs in every where , the history never record that muslims arab killed cristian and distroy thier countries , but they save them and give him a choise between entering islam or payiny mony to save and serve serve them .

Please dont be like recorder listing and talking only , if you dont know about islam rules dont talk about it , islam never said to kill any one , prophet muhammad was asking muslim before any battels that dont kill any baby , womens , un warrior , and even dont cut trees .
even the Jews when europe throw them out and killing most of them , no one gave him a help like turkish muslim , they allow them to stay in muslim country , but the JEWS ARE JEWS , the perfidy and breach of trust are in their blood , any way this is not our object now but iam really happy if any need to talk about this in private .

Ya this is not a religion war , it is for oil , and you can ask bush why he said that Christ came to him in hiss dreams and told him to fight bagdad ? and ask him and his group about the milyars of dollars and about thier oils companies which they creat it behined this war .

Oh poor usa troops , some body playing you and sending you to wrong place , and iam sure if you ask any solder why you are here |? he will replay i dont know

there are no reason make him fight brave , for that you see him lean , poor , runing in the dark waitting time to return back his family and child .

thanks

Um thats kinda what I already said..As for Bush he is gone..He had a bad case of Little man syndrome .At the same time some of your leaders have been far worse to the people in Bagdad..I am not sure what the point of this discussion is anymore.

The plain truth is you can not hate all the people because you do not like their leader.We have already said that its not a war between religions ..

And we all agree that our soldiers do not want to be there.

So we now all agree to disagree !That is clear..This is a gore site and this topic has been all talked out..

Its simple ROYALBOY as well as others involved..Lets just look at pictures and quit fighting over what has been agreed upon over and over again..

[Faust]

Darwinmistake,

The soldiers are not to blame, you are right.
The US government is.
They lied to the soldiers that there were weapons of mass destruction. The UN/NATO/whatever told the US that there weren't.
Anyway, they went to IRAQ, and thousands of your sons, brothers, friends, fathers, etc got killed. They got killed even worse than they show in the pictures. And more slowly sometimes.
They were not there because they want oil. They were there because they were following orders.
Of course they are trying to stay alive.

The taliban was a threat (debatable btw, see 9-11) but Iraq was not a threat. Also the Netherlands government wants to get out of Iraq/Afghanistan. Look it up.

I believed in the USA in the last 7 years more children died from school shootings than from terrorist attacks. Just saying.

I still believe the soldiers are heroes though. They are only following orders, and will be shot by US officers if they don't follow them.

[DarwinsMistake]

Originally Posted by Faust ↗

Darwinmistake,

The soldiers are not to blame, you are right.
The US government is.
They lied to the soldiers that there were weapons of mass destruction. The UN/NATO/whatever told the US that there weren't.
Anyway, they went to IRAQ, and thousands of your sons, brothers, friends, fathers, etc got killed. They got killed even worse than they show in the pictures. And more slowly sometimes.
They were not there because they want oil. They were there because they were following orders.
Of course they are trying to stay alive.

The taliban was a threat (debatable btw, see 9-11) but Iraq was not a threat. Also the Netherlands government wants to get out of Iraq/Afghanistan. Look it up.

I believed in the USA in the last 7 years more children died from school shootings than from terrorist attacks. Just saying.

I still believe the soldiers are heroes though. They are only following orders, and will be shot by US officers if they don't follow them.

Yep to what you said..No arguments from me..The whole war sucks we all agree..I myself am going back to the gore site here that I love so much..I think the folks here have argued and fought way to damn much over the Middle east..The war and the middle east are a lost cause and so is the discussion.Fuck the Taliban

I myself am starting to avoid this subject and started re focusing back on why I came to DR..

Take care and see ya around the other posts on this site..!!

Thank fuck for that, this thread was beginning to suffer with 'repetitive rant' fatigue

[StiffyWood]

God Bless.