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Missing Dutch Hikers in Panama

This is old news - but does anyone remember the two Dutch hikers, Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon who disappeared in 2014?

They went hiking somewhere in Panama and never came back. One of their backpacks was found, dry, by a river bank weeks later. Wiki has a detailed breakdown of the phone activities of the phones they found, showing several attempts at a Dutch equivalent of 911, signal drops, attempted wrong pin, and attempts at emergency calls. They also found a camera with 90 pictures of random shots of the trail and possibly of one of the girls body.

Months later they found one of their pelvis, a shoe with a foot in it, and several bones identified as belonging to both of them. No foul play suspected. Investigators think they fell off got lost and were unable to make their way back.
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08-06-2018, 11:22 PM
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Re: Missing Dutch Hikers in Panama

hmm... got lost at first.. but surely something/someone got a hold of them.
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Re: Missing Dutch Hikers in Panama

https://allthatsinteresting.com/kris...-lisanne-froon
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Re: Missing Dutch Hikers in Panama

So sad
So tragic for the families left behind
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Re: Missing Dutch Hikers in Panama

The camera thing is basically horror movie material. Three days after they stopped trying to use their phones, suddenly 90 pictures are snapped in the dead of night of the scary-ass jungle, the girls' belongings, and the back of one of their heads, which is visibly wounded. Fucking no no no no.

I've been to Panama. It's not a bleak hellscape like Honduras or El Salvador, rather it is more akin to Costa Rica. I rode on a ship through the canal, took a rainforest tour with a whole bus full of retirees, visited the San Blas islands, and ate lots of hotdogs (seriously, everywhere I went, people were cooking hotdogs). The locals were gregarious, funny, and laid back. It was great.

I suspect that the friendly, welcoming atmosphere lulled these two into letting their guard down, and something happened. Who knows what. But you don't go gallivanting in the fucking Central American jungle. It sounds odd to say, but I sincerely hope they merely starved to death in the rainforest, which is easy to do.
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Re: Missing Dutch Hikers in Panama

Sometimes I wonder why god gives women a brain they never use it
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Re: Missing Dutch Hikers in Panama

It sounds odd to say, but I sincerely hope they merely starved to death in the rainforest, which is easy to do.
I think the continuous use of their phones and cameras make it seem more likely that they had gotten lost or hurt and died finding a way out rather than someone/something getting a hold of them.

I've seen some people speculate that the random camera pictures was them trying to use the flash to see ahead - but really who knows because the investigators never released all the pictures.
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Re: Missing Dutch Hikers in Panama

Interesting case
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Re: Missing Dutch Hikers in Panama

Could it be because it was night their camera was the only source of “light”? Something may have scared the shit out of them and the phones may have died so they took photos instead just to make sure they were alone, could also be the same for the photo of one of the girls - the website linked earlier suggested it was blood coming from one of their heads, could they have been moving in the dark .. taking photos of their surroundings as a torch and one fell?
Anything could have happened I suppose.
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Re: Missing Dutch Hikers in Panama

Could it be because it was night their camera was the only source of “light”? Something may have scared the shit out of them and the phones may have died so they took photos instead just to make sure they were alone, could also be the same for the photo of one of the girls - the website linked earlier suggested it was blood coming from one of their heads, could they have been moving in the dark .. taking photos of their surroundings as a torch and one fell?
Anything could have happened I suppose.
That's the theory I always heard, that they used the camera's flash to see their way through the jungle. I'd really like to know what happened tho, if it was accident, murder, animal attack??
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