[TheVrist]

Originally Posted by Vedderman ↗

For what it's worth (which admittedly isn't much), I don't think this is real. Skin tone is too even, no hint of livor and I feel that the alleged rigor here is posed for the shot.

There have been a great many 'morgue' images coming off of Asian death-fetish sites in the past few months and onto this and other gore forums. The scenes are typically quite well done and the pics themselves are hi-res, but I have seen numerous 'red flags' in each image set that indicate to me that they are faked.

The setting is wrong, the skin tone is too even, the cutting is too pristine, the 'voyeuristic' aspect of the whole sequence, especially the graphic 'display' of the actual evisceration is suspect, the leaves are weird, the lack of medical personnel and instruments beyond what can be purchased at a hobby store is troubling, and the complete and utter lack of any sort of name/location/date/circumstance...

I dunno. I can't really explain it beyond that other than to say that I have seen an awful lot of postmortem photos and something about this one (and several other recent Asian 'morgue' images) rubs me the wrong way. This girl just doesn't actually seem dead. I know a lot of you probably feel that it is legit and that's fine. I've been wrong before and I may be wrong here.

But until something comes along to substantiate these photos, I don't buy it.

I wouldn't call her skin tone even. She has what appears to be what is often called a "farmer's tan" lines, both at the upper arm levels, and the upper thighs- the upper thigh area would suggest she often wore shorts outside.

Sure anyone with a creative mind would add into their piece some form of tan lines, however if you look close enough the lan lines are layered in tones, which would be consistent with wearing garments of slightly different lengths, and or from siting positions. Some detail I don't think an fetish artist would be familiar with. Could be wrong, however i'm doubtful. More doubtful since they even added the farmer's tan to the feet, which form the shape of slip on shoes she would be wearing.

Closer look at her legs (calves) you can see scaring from possibly sticker brush, so she was most likely from a rural area of origin. And often walked through areas with thick vegetation.

A closer look along the breast, you can see clear skin indention from where a bra had been worn, most likely well into state of rigor.

Above her pelvic region, and between her naval, you can see a faint hint of scar tissue, suggesting she has been pregnant before.

On her right arm in the elbo pit she has an existing scar that had been prior stitch work done to it.

As far as incisions, it seems they have another practice in asian countries that are different from the typical HUGE -Y- incissions performed with an itty bitty scalpel, like we're use to seeing. example here another flawless slice http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...utopsy-147817/

Which I will go out on a limb and assume they are using a zipper blade, which resembles what is used in gutting open an large animal.

Location and lack of instruments. While I too thought it was comical to see leaves, and a lot less of a professional atmosphere for an autopsy, we still need to consider the source of loc.

Just to name a few things from observation. If an artist made this, kudos to them on magnificent detail.

Edit to add: her right arm could be in that position due to a somewhat botched tendon surgery performed at an earlier time, since the "stitched scar" is in a common location for tendon reattachment procedure.

[Vedderman]

Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear in how I felt the images weren't 'real.'

Yes, I agree with everything you said, more or less. All of those aspects of her body are true. I didnt mean to say that she was a doll or CGI or something. I just think it is more likely that she is a low-paid fetish model pretending to be dead. The actual evisceration image, in my opinion, is a well-done bit of photo-editing, but for the most part, the rest of her is real.

When I mentioned that her skin tone was too even, I was largely referring to her mortality, not her reality. Her skin tone makes her look like a real live girl, not a real (or fake) dead girl. There's no hint of livor mortis-no postmortem lividity whatsoever. If her rigor was real, her skin tone should be displaying clear signs of blood settling as well. It does not. Nowhere. Sure, she has all of the scars and nicks and bumps and such of a real person...but her skin looks alive, not dead. It almost even has a warm, living 'glow' to it. Any dead body with genuine rigor that pronounced should be displaying clear livor mortis or early decomp tint in the abdominal area.

But not this girl. Her skin tone looks almost healthy by comparison.
Something about the eyes too. They just don't have that distant, vacant, eternally-sightless void that most real dead bodies do.

So anyway, yeah, I do think she's a real human being. I just think she's a low-paid fetish model pretending to be dead with some good photoshopping on the final image. As I said, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time by any means. But this girl simply does not look dead to me.

[TheVrist]

Oh gotcha, I kinda thought so after i logged off.

Anyway Here is a good reputable site that helps detect photoshoped pics. For this one it appears to be 100% legit.

It is at 93% quality, using a NIKON D70 (all original **** info is still there which disappear once you take it into photo shop and save it, new info will have the photoshop stamps)

The ELA doesn't show any pixel rainbows, swirls, big circles or erratic changes in textures, and the contrast is consistent all across the board. Basically if the incision part had been photoshop in, we would see a series of RBGs around the edges, and black swirls, and lines from using a edge/blur tool. If there was an overlay, we would see a ranbow effect over the dark parts of the image.

LINK TO TOOL

[kellyhound]

wonder if this is a fresh choke kill and cut in a not so professional way somewhere outside to get organs as organ trading is still a big thing in Asia.

[TheVrist]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

wonder if this is a fresh choke kill and cut in a not so professional way somewhere outside to get organs as organ trading is still a big thing in Asia.

Could be, i think it's easy to think she has been dead for a while by the position of her hand/arm. But like i said the scar tissue in the elbo pit is usually result of a tendon reattachment job, so my guess is, her hand/arm is permanently fixed in the position.

So it could be a fresh death, and why she still seems 'alive"

[Shakey]

Originally Posted by ellone ↗

The inside of the human body is so... Interesting.

...and warm and juicy.

[corpsehands]

Dirty morgue

[blue.beard]

There are faint lines on her neck, and a depression on her neck near her jaw. A broad soft ligature, like a towel can leave such faint marks. The depression on her neck could be from a knot...maybe she lined her noose with a towel which spread the pressure and didn't leave a typical scar.

We've seen several pics of Chinese autopsies being done outdoors.

If the cadaver is less than two hours old, we wouldn't see livor, and the pallor would just be starting.

[Arista]

Longest big toe ever.

And I agree, after a second look it does look like it's fake rigor mortis. But could be....

[Arista]

Originally Posted by blue.beard ↗

There are faint lines on her neck, and a depression on her neck near her jaw. A broad soft ligature, like a towel can leave such faint marks. The depression on her neck could be from a knot...maybe she lined her noose with a towel which spread the pressure and didn't leave a typical scar.

We've seen several pics of Chinese autopsies being done outdoors.

If the cadaver is less than two hours old, we wouldn't see livor, and the pallor would just be starting.

There appears to be some kind of ligature mark on the inside bend of her arm in the last pic. Could explain why her arm is in that pose if it had been tied back.