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03-05-2009, 01:54 AM
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Re: Dawn of the Black Hearts
he never closed down his record label, it was his store helvete that he closed down, the thing about his grand parents that's the first time i have heard this., but the thing that happens is varg has twisted and twisted and twisted things for a long time. deathlike silence was going till the day he died, because varg used the excuse of coming over to sort out the contract for the new release, as a way to get entrance to euronymous' property. the only person i ever heard from about euronymous saying he wanted to kill anyone was varg. the bands who were all close with this supposed "iner circle" used to send death threats to bands in the swedish scene yes. The only person i've so far heard talking negatively about oystein (other than varg) was snorre ruch, though he was on varg's side, so it was to be expected the people i interviewed at the end of the 90s were still rather sore about the subject and pretty pissed off with varg still (including manheim). and I have many interviews and so forth from 1993-1994 in the weeks and months after the murder with the bands that were central at the time to the scene. as far as i'm concerned if it's those same people saying good riddance now, then they're no better than varg with the constant changing of ideology and statements. anyway the norwegian scene has been dead n buried since 1993, hardly anything good's come out from there since, other than ofcourse old Ulver  |
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03-05-2009, 03:06 AM
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| Bananananananana Poster Rank:554 Lass Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,770 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Quoted: 8 Post(s)
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Re: Dawn of the Black Hearts
Yeahyeah, I meant helvette. Øystein is kinda the clown of the black metal scene up here. In the end, no one liked him, he'd gone bonkers. Quite frankly I don't bother to start yet another discussion on this, I just wanted to say that Varg actually aint a douche in real life and that Øystein was a dickhead.. |
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03-05-2009, 03:20 AM
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Re: Dawn of the Black Hearts
regardless of varg being friendly to people in person, his constant statements and so forth still make him a douche, but you're obsessed with varg as you've said before so you cant (as a pro varg person) have a non biassed discussion or make non biassed posts on the subject
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03-05-2009, 06:12 AM
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Re: Dawn of the Black Hearts
varg claims euronymous wanted to kill him, other people closer to the thing often say that varg was jealous of the attention euronymous got, and felt he should be the centre of attention instead. this would make a lot of sense considering the stupid attention seeking statements he always makes. though i personally don't know. When varg ran away back in 2005 or when ever it was (i forget the date) he claimed he was running as some one in prison tried to kill him. so that totally doesn't fit in with the whole concept of him stabbing euronymous in the back (apparently all 30-40 or what ever stand wounds were in euronymous's back/back of his neck/back of his head) out of not wanting to be killed himself. other people say euronymous fucked varg's girlfriend in the ass, which is where the whole thing came about when varg started saying (after euronymous' death) that euronymous was a homo that would fuck himself in the ass with a dildo etc etc. in the end, what ever varg says cant be taken serious and as a result i dont think anyone will ever know the truth yeah i dont listen to ulver past nattens madrigal |
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03-05-2009, 06:53 AM
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Re: Dawn of the Black Hearts
i know this, i listen to a wider range of music than most people http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f2/music-12875/ just didnt get into the newer ulver |
