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06-07-2011, 04:23 AM
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Re: Dad Goes Mad with His Daughter
My point is that growing up without enough discipline turns little girls into hoodrats. Been to a high school lately? I rest my case.
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06-07-2011, 04:30 AM
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Re: Dad Goes Mad with His Daughter
Hahaha, good point...I think you made me change my mind! Although I would say that behaviour will always come from environmental conditioning. There is only so much control a parent can give when their kids are being influenced from other places. Punishment will rarely work in a good way. |
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06-07-2011, 02:24 PM
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Re: Dad Goes Mad with His Daughter
Also, I believe the difference in opinions reflects how we were raised. Personally, I got my ass whipped for fuckin up, and I turned out pretty good, so of course I'll associate discipline with good behavior and the lack of discipline with poor behavior. If this young lady thought to herself "If I send this guy a pic of my tits and word gets back to my dad, he's gunna whip my ass." Maybe it would have stopped her, on the other hand... Maybe it wouldn't...
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06-08-2011, 03:03 AM
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Well I'm not talking through my opinion as I was punished also. Studies have shown that punishment doesn't work. Just because we grew up with it and it may be common place doesn't mean it's a good thing. You have to take into account there are many factors in our environment that shaped both our upbringings that likely had nothing to do with punishment. So you say it worked for you, but here you are advocating punishment without realising the very real side effects it often has. True, it may stop her...for a while. But it will leave her with a negative feeling towards her dad, which isn't good in any relationship. It may also teach that next time she should be incredibly careful to conceal it from her dad. The ideal would have been to have a good enough relationship that the dad could have sat her down, explained his concerns and why he was worried, then listened to her side. And then he could still take away the phone/internet etc. yet still maintain a good character for having heard her out. People make mistakes, we're only human. Should punishment be the solution? Probably not, as then we would all be scared to try things incase we make a mistake...much like the world we live in today. Being wrong is taught to us to be one of the worst things we can be when in fact, if you're proven wrong you should be happy as your knowledge and understanding has grown. If the environment conditions her to become a whore then you have to change the environment or remove her from that environment. Punishment will not solve the problem. But I am open to changing my mind if the evidence is there. |
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06-09-2011, 10:15 AM
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Re: Dad Goes Mad with His Daughter
I respect this man a lot. He is scaring his daughter straight, and far too many parents these days let their children get away with murder (literally, look at the parents of those Ukraine maniacs who refuse to accept their sons comitted any murders).
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06-09-2011, 10:33 AM
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Sure punishment is effective. It's effective at creating more fear, aggression, violence and avoidance. The thing is, when someone claims that punishment has had a positive effect it's more likely that other factors created that positive effect other than the punishment. Science, logic and reason tells us that punishment is not effective at creating positive change. |
