[kellyhound]

During the night of November 3, starting at 7:00 p.m. on November 2, Russia launched 12 missiles of various types and 138 drones against Ukraine. One missile and 115 drones were successfully destroyed.

This was reported by the Air Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Today, Russia attacked with three Kh-47M2 Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles from the airspace over the Lipetsk region, four Iskander-M ballistic missiles from the temporarily occupied territory of Crimea, and five S-300/S-400 surface-to-air guided missiles from the Kursk region.

The occupiers also launched 138 strike UAVs — Shahed, “Gerbera,” and other types of drones — from the directions of Kursk, Millerovo, Oryol, and Primorsko-Akhtarsk, about 80 of which were identified as Shaheds.

As of 8:30 a.m., Ukrainian air defense forces shot down and neutralized one Kh-47M2 Kinzhal aeroballistic missile and 115 drones of various types in the north, south, and east of the country.

Missile and drone strikes were recorded at 11 locations, with 20 strike UAVs hitting targets.




The president thanked Chancellor Friedrich Merz for supporting the latest reinforcement of Ukraine’s air defence, saying it directly reduces Russia’s ability to terrorise civilian areas.

Ukraine has reinforced its air defence capabilities with additional Patriot systems, President Volodymyr Zelensky said in his address on Sunday. He thanked Germany and Chancellor Friedrich Merz for what he called a “joint step” aimed at protecting civilians from Russian missile and drone attacks.

Zelensky said the agreement on strengthening Ukraine’s air defence had been prepared in advance and has now been fully implemented.

According to the president, Russia continues to rely on air strikes as its primary strategy, attempting to compensate for the inability to achieve its goals on the battlefield. He stressed that every improvement in air defence capabilities reduces Russia’s effectiveness and increases the likelihood of ending the war.

Zelensky noted that Ukraine, together with its partners, is working to build a long-term and reliable air defence network that could also help protect allied countries if needed.

Talks on further strengthening Ukraine’s air defence continue both at the governmental level and directly with defence manufacturers, he added.

[kellyhound]

Originally Posted by kellyhound ↗

Pentagon clears Tomahawk missile transfer to Ukraine, final decision up to Trump.

US defense officials say several operational issues, including training and method of deployment, under review.

The Pentagon has approved providing Ukraine with long-range Tomahawk missiles, determining that the move would not affect US stockpiles, according to US and European officials.

The final decision, however, remains with President Donald Trump.

CNN reported on Friday that the Pentagon’s assessment was delivered to the White House earlier this month, shortly before Trump met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Washington. Ukraine has requested the missiles to strike energy and infrastructure targets inside Russia.

The Tomahawk system has a range of approximately 1,000 miles (1,600 kilometers) and is typically launched from ships or submarines.

US defense officials said several operational issues, including training and the method of deployment, are under review.

The Pentagon’s assessment was viewed positively by several European allies, who said it removed concerns over missile availability. Plans have been drawn up to supply the systems quickly if the president authorizes the transfer.

During a working lunch with Zelenskyy at the White House, Trump said the United States “needs” the Tomahawks and does not want to “be giving away things that we need to protect our country.”

According to CNN, Trump’s position changed after a phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin, who said the Tomahawks could reach Russian cities, including Moscow and St. Petersburg, and would negatively affect bilateral relations.

The White House and Pentagon have not commented.

Earlier, Zelenskyy said Ukraine aims to strengthen its long-range strike capability by the end of the year, saying that “global sanctions and our pinpoint precision are practically syncing up to end this war on terms fair for Ukraine.”

Meanwhile, Putin and the Kremlin repeatedly warned that the US deliveries of Tomahawk missiles to Kyiv could lead to a "serious escalation."

Will your administration provide Ukraine with long-range Tomahawk missiles? You're not considering that?

President Trump: No, not really. It could happen. I could change, but at this moment I'm not.

Taco strikes again.

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A Russian Su-30-series fighter crashed in the Republic of Karelia on November 13, with both crew members confirmed dead.

According to Russian Telegram channels SHOT and 112, the aircraft went down in a forested area near Petrozavodsk, not far from the city’s civilian airport.

The incident involved a twin-seat combat aircraft operating over the Prionezhsky district of Karelia. SHOT reported that the pilots “were unable to eject,” and emergency services are currently working at the crash site. 112 added that the jet fell shortly after departure, though the exact cause has not yet been disclosed.

SHOT also suggested that the aircraft may have been a Su-27 rather than a Su-30, noting that “the model is still being verified.” Russian authorities have not issued an official statement.

The crash occurred near the Besovets airfield, home to Russia’s 159th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment. The unit is part of the 105th Mixed Aviation Division of the Western Military District and operates both Su-27 and Su-30SM aircraft.

The channels reporting the incident stated that the wreckage was found in a wooded area, with no indications of damage to civilian infrastructure.

The Su-30SM is one of Russia’s primary multirole fighters, used for air-to-air combat, interception, and precision strikes. It is equipped with thrust-vectoring engines, phased-array radar, and a combat radius suitable for operations across Russia’s northern regions.

The aircraft typically carries air-to-air missiles such as the R-77 and R-73, as well as guided air-to-surface munitions.

The 159th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment has historically played a key role in air defense duties in northwest Russia. Stationed at Besovets, the unit frequently participates in joint patrols, training missions, and readiness exercises. Its fleet has undergone gradual modernization, but older airframes remain in service alongside newer variants.

Earlier in May 2025, Ukraine’s Defense Intelligence Agency confirmed the world’s first recorded instance of a sea drone downing a military aircraft, when a Magura V5 maritime drone shot down a Russian Su-30 fighter jet near Novorossiysk.

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The Trump administration and Russian officials have drawn up a sweeping new proposal to end Russia’s war in Ukraine that envisages major concessions by Kyiv, and have urged President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to accept it, according to people briefed on the effort.

A group of Russian and American officials were involved in the creation of the plan, which is still at a framework stage, a person familiar with the talks told the Financial Times.

One of its architects is Kirill Dmitriev, the head of Russia’s sovereign wealth fund and a close ally of President Vladimir Putin, people familiar with the proposal said.

The plan was conveyed to Kyiv this week by US President Donald Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff, who met the current secretary of the national security and defence council of Ukraine and former defence minister, Rustem Umerov, in Miami to go over its 28 points, two people familiar with the talks said.

They added Witkoff had made clear he wanted Zelenskyy to accept the terms even though they included points that have long been red lines for Ukraine.

One of the people said it would amount to Ukraine giving up its sovereignty if Kyiv accepted the plan and called the effort a Russian attempt to “play” the Trump administration, which they added was eager to “show progress” on a deal.

According to people with knowledge of a document about the draft plan, it would require Ukraine to cede the remainder of the eastern Donbas region — including land currently under Kyiv’s control — and cut the size of its armed forces by half.

Crucially, it also calls for Ukraine to abandon key categories of weaponry and would include the rollback of US military assistance that has been vital to its defence, potentially leaving the country vulnerable to future Russian aggression.

Additionally, no foreign troops would be allowed on Ukrainian soil and Kyiv would no longer receive western long-range weapons that can reach deep inside Russia.

The plan would also stipulate that Russian be recognised as an official state language in Ukraine and grant formal status to the local branch of the Russian Orthodox Church — provisions echoing long-standing Kremlin political objectives.

One person familiar with the document described it as a very generic one that was “heavily tilted towards Russia”.

Another person briefed on the plan called it “very comfortable for Putin”.

“It’s not a plan but a mix of real, practical proposals with good intentions,” a Russian person familiar with the matter said. “Part of it is absolutely unacceptable for the Ukrainians.”

Officials in Kyiv briefed on the plan said it closely aligned with the Kremlin’s maximalist demands, adding it would be a non-starter for Ukraine without significant changes.

But one of the people briefed on the proposal was less pessimistic, saying “the Americans are pressing Moscow to clearly articulate what their expectations actually are to . . . start the negotiations”.

The proposal comes as Zelenskyy’s political position in Ukraine has weakened amid a widening corruption scandal involving several close allies.

The fallout has emboldened opposition figures and triggered dissent within his Servant of the People party.

Some MPs have publicly called for the dismissal of the president’s chief of staff, Andriy Yermak, and proposed a unity government that would dilute Zelenskyy’s authority.

But it has also given Washington a window of opportunity to apply renewed pressure on Kyiv to reach a deal on terms that would be less than favourable.

The Kremlin and a spokesperson for Dmitriev did not immediately reply to requests for comment.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The existence of the plan was first reported by Axios.

Oil prices fell sharply on reports of the proposal, as traders bet that peace talks would reduce oil supply risks linked to the announcement last month of US sanctions on Russian oil companies Rosneft and Lukoil.

Brent crude prices fell almost 3 per cent to $63.17 during morning trading in New York, while US West Texas Intermediate, the benchmark for US crude, traded to a low of $58.77.

“Oil prices have been supported by the threat of sanctions and any move towards peace talks and less stringent enforcement by Washington is likely to shift the market focus towards oversupply concerns,” Kevin Book, head of research at ClearView Energy Partners, a Washington-based consultancy, said.

Dmitriev visited Washington in late October, after the US imposed sweeping sanctions on Rosneft and Lukoil and cancelled a bilateral summit with Putin that was due to take place in Budapest, as Trump had been growing frustrated with the Russian president.

The last straw was a tense call between the two countries’ top diplomats, which convinced Washington that Moscow was not prepared to negotiate.

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The contents of the plan, which was quietly drawn up in recent weeks during negotiations between US envoy Steve Witkoff and his Russian counterpart Kirill Dmitriev, were leaked last night via Ukrainian and later also American media.

The White House is reportedly setting an "aggressive" deadline, requiring Zelensky to sign the plan by next Thursday, the same day as Thanksgiving in the US.

White House spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt confirmed Thursday evening that Trump "supports this plan because it's good for both Russia and Ukraine and acceptable to both sides."

1. Ukraine's sovereignty will be affirmed.

2. A comprehensive non-aggression agreement will be concluded between Russia, Ukraine, and Europe. All ambiguities of the past 30 years will be considered resolved.

3. It is expected that Russia will not invade neighboring countries and that NATO will not expand further.

4. A dialogue will take place between Russia and NATO, mediated by the United States, to resolve all security issues and create conditions for de-escalation, in order to safeguard global security and enhance opportunities for cooperation and future economic development.

5. Ukraine will receive reliable security guarantees. (Note: According to Axios, this point has been further elaborated in a separate agreement; see below.)

6. The size of the Ukrainian armed forces will be limited to 600,000 troops.

7. Ukraine agrees to constitutionally stipulate that it will not join NATO, and NATO agrees to include a provision in its statutes stipulating that Ukraine will not be admitted in the future.

8. NATO agrees not to station troops in Ukraine.

9. European fighter jets will be stationed in Poland.

10. The US guarantee:

— The US will receive compensation for the guarantee.
— If Ukraine invades Russia, it will lose the guarantee.
— If Russia invades Ukraine, in addition to a strong, coordinated military response, all global sanctions will be reimposed, and recognition of the new territory and all other benefits of this agreement will be revoked.
— If Ukraine fires a missile at Moscow or St. Petersburg without justification, the security guarantee will be voided.

11. Ukraine will be eligible for EU membership and will receive preferential access to the European market in the near future while this issue is being considered.

12. A robust global package of measures to rebuild Ukraine, including but not limited to:

— Establishing a Ukrainian Development Fund to invest in high-growth industries, including technology, data centers, and artificial intelligence.
— The United States will work with Ukraine to jointly rebuild, develop, modernize, and operate Ukraine's gas infrastructure, including pipelines and storage facilities.
— Joint efforts to rehabilitate war-affected areas for the rehabilitation, reconstruction, and modernization of cities and residential areas.
— Infrastructure development.
— Extraction of minerals and natural resources.
— The World Bank will develop a special financing package to accelerate these efforts.

13. Russia will be reintegrated into the global economy:

— The lifting of sanctions will be discussed and agreed upon in phases and on a case-by-case basis. — The United States will conclude a long-term economic cooperation agreement aimed at mutual development in energy, natural resources, infrastructure, artificial intelligence, data centers, Arctic rare earth mining projects, and other mutually beneficial business opportunities.
— Russia will be invited to rejoin the G8.

14. Frozen assets will be used as follows:

— $100 billion of frozen Russian assets will be invested in US-led efforts to rebuild Ukraine and invest in the country.
— The US will receive 50 percent of the profits from this venture. Europe will contribute $100 billion to increase the amount available for Ukraine's reconstruction. Frozen European funds will be released. The remainder of the frozen Russian funds will be invested in a separate US-Russian investment vehicle that will implement joint projects in specific areas. This fund will be aimed at strengthening relations and enhancing shared interests to create a strong incentive not to return to conflict.

15. A joint U.S.-Russia working group on security issues will be established to promote and ensure compliance with all provisions of this agreement.

16. Russia will codify its policy of non-aggression toward Europe and Ukraine.

17. The United States and Russia agree to extend the validity of treaties on the non-proliferation and control of nuclear weapons, including START I.

18. Ukraine agrees to be a non-nuclear state in accordance with the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.

19. The Zaporizhia nuclear power plant will be started up under IAEA supervision.

20. Both countries commit to implementing educational programs in schools and society aimed at promoting understanding and tolerance of different cultures and eliminating racism and prejudice:
— Ukraine will adopt EU rules on religious tolerance and the protection of linguistic minorities.
— Both countries agree to abolish all discriminatory measures and to guarantee the rights of Ukrainian and Russian media and education.
— All Nazi ideologies and activities must be rejected and banned.

21. Territories:
— Crimea, Luhansk, and Donetsk will be recognized as de facto Russian, including by the United States.
— Kherson and Zaporizhia will be frozen along the contact line, which amounts to de facto recognition along the contact line.
— Russia will relinquish other agreed-upon territories it controls outside the five regions.
— Ukrainian forces will withdraw from the part of Donetsk Oblast they currently control, and this withdrawal zone will be considered a neutral demilitarized buffer zone, internationally recognized as territory belonging to the Russian Federation. Russian forces will not enter this demilitarized zone.

22. Having reached agreement on future territorial arrangements, both the Russian Federation and Ukraine undertake not to alter these arrangements by force. In the event of a breach of this commitment, security guarantees will not apply.

23. Russia will not prevent Ukraine from using the Dnieper River for commercial activities, and agreements will be concluded on the free movement of grain across the Black Sea.

24. A humanitarian committee will be established to resolve outstanding issues:
— All remaining prisoners and bodies will be exchanged on an "all for all" basis.
— All civilian prisoners and hostages will be returned, including children.
— A family reunification program will be implemented.
— Measures will be taken to alleviate the suffering of the victims of the conflict.

25. Ukraine will hold elections within 100 days.

26. All parties to this conflict will receive full amnesty for their actions during the war and agree not to submit claims or entertain complaints in the future.

27. This agreement is legally binding. Its implementation will be monitored and guaranteed by the Peace Council, chaired by President Donald J. Trump. Violations will result in sanctions.

28. Once all parties agree to this memorandum, the ceasefire will take effect immediately after both parties have withdrawn to agreed-upon points to begin implementing the agreement.

According to the news website Axios, in addition to these 28 points, the plan also includes a separate agreement that further elaborates on the security guarantees for Ukraine.

For Ukraine, this would be the most positive outcome of the agreement, and the country would receive guarantees modeled on Article 5 of NATO. The United States and Europe would consider any future Russian attack on Ukraine as an attack on the entire transatlantic community.

This is the text of this separate agreement:

This framework establishes the conditions for a ceasefire between Ukraine and the Russian Federation and provides a security guarantee based on the principles of Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty, adapted to the circumstances of this conflict and the interests of the United States and its European partners.

1. The United States affirms that a significant, intentional, and sustained armed attack by the Russian Federation across the agreed-upon ceasefire line on Ukrainian territory will be considered an attack that threatens the peace and security of the transatlantic community.

In such an event, the President of the United States, in exercise of his constitutional authority and after immediate consultation with Ukraine, NATO, and European partners, will determine the measures necessary to restore security.

These measures may include armed force, intelligence and logistical assistance, economic and diplomatic actions, and other steps deemed appropriate. A joint review mechanism with NATO and Ukraine will evaluate any alleged violation.

2. NATO members, including France, the United Kingdom, Germany, Poland, and Finland, reaffirm that Ukraine's security is integral to European stability and commit to addressing any relevant violation, in consultation with the United States, to ensure a united and credible deterrent.

3. This framework will enter into force upon signature and will remain in force for ten years, with the possibility of extension by mutual agreement.

A joint monitoring committee led by European partners and with participation from the United States will monitor compliance.

U.S. President Donald Trump's Special Envoy for Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, has told associates he plans to leave the administration in January, four sources told Reuters, a departure that would mean the loss of a key advocate for Ukraine in the Trump administration.

Special presidential envoy is a temporary designation, and such envoys in theory must be confirmed by the Senate to stay in their positions past 360 days.

Kellogg has indicated that January would be a natural departure point, given existing legislation, said the sources, who requested anonymity to discuss private conversations.

His departure will be unwelcome news in Kyiv. The retired lieutenant general was widely viewed by European diplomats, Ukrainians included, as a sympathetic ear in an administration that has at times leaned toward Moscow's view on the origins of the war in Ukraine.

News of the move comes as Ukraine confronts new headwinds on the diplomatic front.

Two sources told Reuters on Wednesday that the U.S. signaled to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that Ukraine must accept a U.S.-drafted framework to end the war with Russia that proposes Kyiv giving up territory and some weapons. The proposals, which include cutting the size of Ukraine's armed forces, would represent a major setback for Kyiv.

That framework proposal was spearheaded by U.S. Special Envoy for Peace Missions Steve Witkoff, and it does not appear that Kellogg had a role in its drafting.

Kellogg has more forcefully denounced Russian attacks on Ukrainian civilian infrastructure than other Trump administration officials.

He at times clashed with Witkoff, who has repeated some of Russian President Vladimir Putin's talking points and has long advocated a lopsided territorial swap as part of a long-term peace deal.

Among Kellogg's successes was facilitating the release of dozens of hostages held by Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko in return for limited sanctions relief.

The White House and the State Department did not respond to requests for comment.

One person with knowledge of Kellogg's decision said he never intended to stay in the administration for long.

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Zelensky and Trump will finalize the peace plan for Ukraine during the meeting.

US representatives say that the final details of a possible peace agreement regarding Ukraine are still being discussed, and the agreement will only be finalized after the leaders of the two countries meet.

According to a US official, the US administration hopes to agree on the final details of the document to prepare an agreement that will be beneficial for Ukraine.

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Ukrainian drones attacked the Shatura State District Power Plant (1500 MW) in the Moscow region.

Ukrainian drones finishing off the already damaged Shatura Power Plant in Moscow region the xt morning.

There are reports local train infrastructure is possible also hit.

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Republican Senator Mike Rounds:

"Rubio did make a phone call to us this afternoon and he made it very clear to us that we are the recipients of a proposal that was delivered to one of our representatives. It is not our recommendation, it is not our peace plan.”

In other words, Russians have leaked their wishlist and the US officials had no idea what was going on and just went along. Absolutely remarkable.

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The United States and Ukraine pressed on with talks in Switzerland on Monday to come up with a mutually acceptable peace plan, after agreeing to modify a U.S. proposal that Kyiv and its European allies saw as a Kremlin wish list.

Washington and Kyiv said in a joint statement they had drafted a "refined peace framework" after a first day of talks in Geneva on Sunday, although they did not provide specifics.

The United States blindsided Kyiv and European countries with a 28-point peace plan last week, giving Ukraine until Thursday to agree to a framework to end Europe's deadliest war since World War Two.

After Sunday's talks, no public statement was released on how the revised plan would handle contentious issues such as how to guarantee Ukraine's security against future Russian threats and how to fund the rebuilding of Ukraine. President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said negotiations were still ongoing.

“We all continue working with partners, especially the United States, to look for compromises that will strengthen but not weaken us,” Zelenskiy said via video link from a separate summit of Ukraine's allies in Sweden.

Zelenskiy said Russia must pay for the war in Ukraine and that a decision on using frozen Russian assets was crucial.

“Right now, we are at a critical moment, and we are working with the United States, European partners, and many others to define steps that can end Russia’s war against us, against Ukraine, and bring real security.”

U.S. President Donald Trump has kept up the pressure on Ukraine to reach a deal. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who led the American delegation during Sunday's talks, said the deadline to reach a deal by Thursday might not be set in stone.

Zelenskiy could travel to the United States as soon as this week to discuss the most sensitive aspects of the plan with Trump, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The initial 28-point proposal put forth by the United States last week called on Ukraine to cede more territory, accept limits on its military and abandon its ambitions to join NATO, Russian demands that Ukrainians have long rejected.

"Trump's special plan is, in general, a capitulation for Ukraine," said Anzhelika Yurkevych, a 62-year-old civil servant in Kyiv.

"I think the Ukrainian people will not agree. Even if they sign, they need to be implemented, the Ukrainian people will be the ones to do it. And they do not agree with this."

Parliamentary speaker Ruslan Stefanchuk said Ukraine stood by its red lines, insisting membership of the EU and NATO must be elements of Ukraine's security guarantees and any peace plan.

The original plan came as a surprise even to some U.S. officials.

Two sources said it was crafted at an October meeting in Miami that included special envoy Steve Witkoff, Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, and Kirill Dmitriev, a Russian envoy who is under U.S. sanctions.

Underscoring the war's toll, Ukraine's second-largest city Kharkiv was hit by what officials said was a massive drone attack that killed four people on Sunday.

With smoke rising from the rubble, one man was seen crouched and holding the hand of a dead body.

“There was a family, there were children," said Ihor Klymenko, Red Cross Commander of the emergency response team in Kharkiv.

"I can't tell you how, but the children are alive, thank God, the man is alive. The woman died, unfortunately.”

Democratic lawmakers have criticized the peace plan as essentially a Russian wish list, but Rubio has insisted that Washington authored the plan with input from both sides in the war.

European allies said they were not involved in crafting the original plan, and they released a counter-proposal that would ease some of the proposed territorial concessions and include a NATO-style security guarantee from the United States for Ukraine if it is attacked.

Some EU leaders will meet to discuss Ukraine on the sidelines of an EU-African Union summit in Luanda on Monday, with others dialling in via video conference.

German Foreign Minister Johann Wadephul said talks on amending the 28-point plan had produced a "decisive success" for Europeans.

"All issues concerning Europe, including those concerning NATO, have been removed from this plan - this is a decisive success that we achieved yesterday," Wadephul told Deutschlandfunk radio, without offering specifics.

"It was clear from the outset, as we have repeatedly said, that any agreement must not be reached over the heads of Europeans and Ukrainians," he added.

Russian forces have slowly gained ground in some regions, while Ukraine's power and gas facilities have been pummeled by drone and missile attacks, leaving millions of people without water, heating and power for hours each day.

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Witkoff Discussed Ukraine Plans With Key Putin Aide:
Transcript:

The following is a transcript of an Oct. 14 phone call lasting just over 5 minutes between Steve Witkoff, Donald Trump’s special envoy for peace missions, and Yuri Ushakov, Vladimir Putin’s most senior foreign-policy adviser.

[phone rings]

Steve Witkoff: Hi Yuri.

Yuri Ushakov: Yeah Steve hi, how are you?

SW: Good Yuri. How you doing?

YU: I am ok. Congratulations my friend.

SW: Thank you.

YU: You made a great job. Just a great job. Thank you so much. Thank you, thank you.

SW: Thank you Yuri and thanks for your support. I know your country supported it and I thank you.

YU: Yes, yes, yes. Yes. You know that’s why we suspend the organization of first Russian-Arabic summit.

SW: Yes.

YU: Yeah, because we think that you are making the real job there in the region.

SW: Well listen. I am going to tell you something. I think, I think if we can get the Russia-Ukraine thing solved, everybody’ll be jumping for joy.

YU: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you need to solve only one problem. [laughs]

SW: What?

YU: Russian-Ukrainian war.

SW: I know! How do we get that solved?

YU: My friend, I just want your advice. Do you think that it will be useful if our bosses will talk on the phone?

SW: Yes, I do.

YU: You do. And when you think it could be possible?

SW: I think as soon as you suggest, my guy is ready to do it.

YU: Ok, ok.

SW: Yuri, Yuri, here’s what I would do. My recommendation.

YU: Yes, please.

SW: I would make the call and just reiterate that you congratulate the president on this achievement, that you supported it, you supported it, that you respect that he is a man of peace and you’re just, you’re really glad to have seen it happen. So I would say that. I think from that it’s going to be a really good call.

Because — let me tell you what I told the President. I told the president that you - that the Russian Federation has always wanted a peace deal. That’s my belief. I told the president I believe that. And I believe the question is — the issue is is that we have two nations that are having a hard time coming to a compromise and when we do, we’re going to have a peace deal. I’m even thinking that maybe we set out like a 20-point peace proposal, just like we did in Gaza. We put a 20-point Trump plan together that was 20 points for peace and I’m thinking maybe we do the same thing with you. My point is this...

YU: Ok, ok my friend. I think that very point our leaders could discuss. Hey Steve, I agree with you that he will congratulate, he will say that Mr. Trump is a real peace man and so and so. That he will say.

SW: But here’s what I think would be amazing.

YU: Ok, ok.

SW: What if, what if... hear me out...

YU: I will discuss that with my boss and then I come back to you. Ok?

SW: Yeah because listen to what I’m saying. I just want you to say, maybe just to say this to President Putin, because you know I have the deepest respect for President Putin.

YU: Yes, Yes.

SW: Maybe he says to President Trump: you know, Steve and Yuri discussed a very similar 20-point plan to peace and that could be something that we think might move the needle a little bit, we’re open to those sorts of things — to explore what it’s going to take to get a peace deal done. Now, me to you, I know what it’s going to take to get a peace deal done: Donetsk and maybe a land swap somewhere. But I’m saying instead of talking like that, let’s talk more hopefully because I think we’re going to get to a deal here. And I think Yuri, the president will give me a lot of space and discretion to get to the deal.

YU: I see...

SW: ...so if we can create that opportunity that after this I talked to Yuri and we had a conversation I think that could lead to big stuff.

YU: Ok, that sounds good. Sounds good.

SW: And here’s one more thing: Zelenskiy is coming to the White House on Friday.

YU: I know that. [chuckles]

SW: I will go to that meeting because they want me there, but I think if possible we have the call with your boss before that Friday meeting.

YU: Before, before — yeah?

SW: Correct.

YU: Ok, ok. I got your advice. So I discuss that with my boss and then I come back to you, ok?

SW: Ok Yuri, I’ll speak to you soon.

YU: Great, great. Thank you so much. Thanks you.

SW: Bye, bye.

YU: Bye.

[Call Ends]