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Putin unleashes ballistic missiles on foreign ships carrying weapons for Ukraine.

Vladimir Putin tried to sink a container ship reportedly carrying a cargo of weapons destined for Ukraine.

Two Iskander-M ballistic missiles were unleashed on a Black Sea port in the southern city of Odesa where the vessel had arrived after making a stop in Turkey.

A Russian Telegram channel claimed the target was drones and missiles on board the Panama-flagged MSC LEVANTE F.

Regional governor Oleh Kiper confirmed that two port workers have been wounded and infrastructure destroyed.

Writing on Telegram, he said the strike damaged the Panamanian-flagged vessel belonging to a European company.

He said emergency crews were at the site and medics were treating the victims.

Facilities at the three Black Sea ports around the city have been frequent Russian targets in the three-year-old war.

The container ship was struck as it prepared to unload, but there has been no confirmation about what the cargo was.

Several pro-Kremlin Telegram channels posted about the shipment being destroyed, but the claims have not been confirmed.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian vice prime minister Oleksii Kuleba challenged the claims, arguing that the ship was carrying civilian cargo.

He said second, Sierra Leone-flagged vessel was also damaged by the strike.

Footage shows people rushing to find shelter as an air raid alert sounded shortly before a deafening explosion rocked Odesa at 6pm on Saturday.

Russia’s attack came on the eve of a defence summit in London during which Sir Keir Starmer announced a new deal which allows Ukraine to use £1.6 billion of UK export finance to buy 5,000 more air defence missiles.

The prime minister told a press conference that the weapons ‘will be made in Belfast, creating jobs in our brilliant defence sector’.

He added: ‘This will be vital for protecting critical infrastructure now and strengthen Ukraine in securing the peace when it comes because we have to learn from the mistakes of the past.
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Trump pauses military aid to Ukraine

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-pau...raine-13321048

He actually did it.
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Trump pauses military aid to Ukraine

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-pau...raine-13321048

He actually did it.
Fuck. Me. I actually disagree with trump on this. What happened to peace through strength?

Only thing I could forgive it would be to get Russia + US versus China. That's it.
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This has been trumps stance from the get go. He is pro Russia. Anyone who can think saw this coming.
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This has been trumps stance from the get go. He is pro Russia. Anyone who can think saw this coming.
Yup, everyone who is not in MAGA cult knew that years in advance. Years. That's also why Biden pushed through as many weapons right before leaving - he knew that these will be the last weapons sent to Ukraine.

Today, the tariffs got applied - and the economy is already tanking and its gonna get much worse.

He is also not trying to ally with Russia against China. Russia will always be much more closely working with China than with the US.
This alliance is Russia+US+North Korea+Iran VS the remaining democratic countries. Dictators unite against democracies. Thats how it has always been
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I don't get why Russia should negotiate now. US already did everything Putin wished for. Now its Russia and North Korea, supplied by China and Iran vs. standalone Ukraine. If I'd be Putin, I'd fight to the end now.
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Ukraine’s brutal call on Trump.

Anthony Albanese on Tuesday said he was “open” to discussing sending to troops as part of a possible peacekeeping mission in Ukraine led by the UK and France.

His British counterpart Keir Starmer said he was looking to involve non-European countries, including Australia, in a coalition to guarantee Ukraine’s security if a peace deal with Russia eventuated.

Ukrainian ambassador Vasyl Myroshnychenko said on Wednesday “America is changing its role in the world and it’s up to the world to step up for democracy”.

“Ukraine is doing that, and we are grateful for Australia’s increased willingness to do so,” he told the ABC.

Mr Myroshnychenko said Kyiv wanted “peace more than anybody else” and it was “ready for negotiations”.

But he added that any negotiations needed to involve Ukraine, Europe and the US.

“We have to force Russia into peace,” Mr Myroshnychenko said.

“And of course, the contribution from the US in terms of military equipment has been the biggest one in the world.”

Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said in a statement overnight his White House clash with Donald Trump was “regrettable” and it was “time to make things right” after the US President paused military aid.

The two leaders were meant to ink a deal granting the US access to hundreds of billions of dollars worth of critical minerals in Ukraine, but the stoush derailed their meeting.

Mr Zelenskyy said he would sign “at any time and in any convenient format”.

“We see this agreement as a step toward greater security and solid security guarantees, and I truly hope it will work effectively,” he said.

Mr Myroshnychenko said he was “optimistic” Mr Zelensky and Mr Trump could “mend their relationship”, pointing to the Ukrainian President’s willingness to sign the minerals agreement and negotiate a peace deal.

But he stressed that Ukraine needed security guarantees, and they in turn needed a “clear mechanism of how they could be enforced”.

“We need to deter any future Russian aggression because Russians need time to resupply or regroup and mount another attack four years from now,” Mr Myroshnychenko said.

“And we need to have rock-solid guarantees to have a sustainable, just and comprehensive peace.

US President Donald Trump has ordered a pause on all US military aid to Ukraine, just days after his heated showdown with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Asked if he thought Australian troops would have a role in warding off a Russian reinvasion, he said: “I welcome the statement from the Prime Minister that he doesn’t rule it out, and Australia may consider that.”

Mr Myroshnychenko said Ukraine valued Canberra’s $1.5bn in aid, crediting Australian-made Bushmasters armoured vehicles with saving “many lives”.

“So we really appreciate their contributions from Australia, and I think this is what is making us stronger together, because the assault of Russia on Ukraine is not only on Ukraine, it’s on liberal democracies,” he said.

“And we now have to be together to defend the democracy, to defend human rights, to defend rule of law, because if we get into the world of a jungle where might is right, it will be very difficult for everybody, including Australia.

“So we believe it’s in a strategic national interest for Australia to continue supporting us because it’s not really a charity – it’s an investment into your own security.”



IMO, I think that the aid will restart after trump pulls his head in a bit as he wants the minerals that Ukraine is sitting on, so his rant about having no cards is bullshit !

Ukraine has plenty of cards starting with some of the most abundant deposits of resources that the US wants & eventually trump, will get a subordinate to broker a deal to get it as trump being trump, the tight assed too proud to bend a knee & admit that all he wants is the mineral deposits & will do anything to get it.
He doesn't care about freedom & democracy, he cares about money & personal stature & nothing more.

Plenty of other support around with the Brits & Australia now stepping up to the plate, so Ukraine can broker a deal with these or any other European Countries & they can even split it up the minerals between players for increased aid, so with that being said, Ukraine has a huge card & the US wants it, so I bet that trump will make up & kiss Zelensky's ass in one way or the other just for the resources as trump is a money man, always has been & always will be.
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Yup, everyone who is not in MAGA cult knew that years in advance. Years. That's also why Biden pushed through as many weapons right before leaving - he knew that these will be the last weapons sent to Ukraine.

Today, the tariffs got applied - and the economy is already tanking and its gonna get much worse.

He is also not trying to ally with Russia against China. Russia will always be much more closely working with China than with the US.
This alliance is Russia+US+North Korea+Iran VS the remaining democratic countries. Dictators unite against democracies. Thats how it has always been
I disagree. Trump has repeatedly stated that Europe should police Europe, not the US. No matter how much $$$ that US hemorrhages into Ukraine, short of WW3, Russia will win Ukraine. This is not being pro-Russia. This is simply cutting our loses - and forcing Euro to invest in their defense. Basic Libertarian concepts here.

The alliance matter is a game of chess with many pieces, and with the US alliances vulnerable to 180-degree swings every 4 years. Clearly Russia owes Trump (and his descendant regimes if we are lucky) for dropping out of their war, and it is yet to be seen where and when that card will be played.
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I disagree. Trump has repeatedly stated that Europe should police Europe, not the US. No matter how much $$$ that US hemorrhages into Ukraine, short of WW3, Russia will win Ukraine. This is not being pro-Russia. This is simply cutting our loses - and forcing Euro to invest in their defense. Basic Libertarian concepts here.

The alliance matter is a game of chess with many pieces, and with the US alliances vulnerable to 180-degree swings every 4 years. Clearly Russia owes Trump (and his descendant regimes if we are lucky) for dropping out of their war, and it is yet to be seen where and when that card will be played.
People said the same thing about Russia invading Afghanistan. Don't just assume Ukraine will lose no matter what, there comes a point where the cost isn't worth it anymore.
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I disagree. Trump has repeatedly stated that Europe should police Europe, not the US. No matter how much $$$ that US hemorrhages into Ukraine, short of WW3, Russia will win Ukraine. This is not being pro-Russia. This is simply cutting our loses - and forcing Euro to invest in their defense. Basic Libertarian concepts here.

The alliance matter is a game of chess with many pieces, and with the US alliances vulnerable to 180-degree swings every 4 years. Clearly Russia owes Trump (and his descendant regimes if we are lucky) for dropping out of their war, and it is yet to be seen where and when that card will be played.
Well, take a look at the battlefield and the progress of the ruz. Its not that great. Now, imagine if Ukraine got proper aid without any limitations. US missed a huge opportunity in the beginning by taking so long to react and give aid, and even then, applying range and target limitations. If they had given HIMARS before putin invaded, can you imagine the utter devastation he would have received. It would have been so bad that it could have actually ended Putin's reign. Heavy losses and chaos at that time is what gave rise to Prighozin - a guy who turned towards Moscow, but gave up half way. Just look at the initial war footage and how crazy vulnerable ruz were at that time. Their old school convoy attacks - 40 mile long convoy. Ask yourself, what would a handful of HIMARS'es done to that convoy...in front of the eyes of the whole world. What would a proper air defense had done to the initial attack on Gostomel airport. Even without any proper AA, Ukrainians shot down quite a few helicopters, filled with special forces. A few Gepard's / Patriots would have decimated the entire special forces of Ruz. The 40 mile long convoy would have burned in front of everyone. It would have been an incredible failure.
With proper aid - a spectacular and embarrassing loss can still occur. Right now, Ukraine is holding back most of the ruz using their own drones....what if they received drones from the US....millions of them. Would ruz still be invincible? What would happen to ruz economy if US unleashed its long range missiles. How many refineries would ruz still have?
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