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So head-on shots are preferred then.
If you watch the pics above, you'll see that the ammo is still stored in a carousel below the turret. I can't imagine an protective effect like western safe ammo storages offer with their blowout panels. I guess the turret will still eject, which completly destroys the vehicle. However, the crew in the frontal part of the Armata are in a seperated compartment, so there's a chance they remain unharmed (but I doub't that, those russian ammo carousel detonations are catastrophic).

They should really go for safe ammo storages + blowout panels, like western tanks have. Or develop safe propellants like Germany did for their current standard tank shells (e.g. DM61 with L1 SCDB propellant). So your ammo just won't cook off anymore. Or combine both for the best result.

Its hard to grasp that the Red Army and later the Army of the Russian Federation never really addressed this issue. Wounder why.

Anyways, It will be probably very hard to produce these new high tech vehicles while under sanctions. You need alot stuff Russia can't produce domestically and China won't deliver. I recently read an artice that the tank production of Uralvagonzavod broke down to a fraction which would have been possible. All they can currently do is to re-activate soviet stuff from their depots.
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"Brigades that repair military equipment are working almost 24/7 to help our Army defend and liberate our lands.

These guys are Heroes, working hard on their own frontlines. Everything to bring our Victory closer. "
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Helmet of a Russian soldier.
this helmet is probably the best one that russians have

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sfera_(helmet)
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"# Ukraine: Ukrainian captured a slightly sketchy 2A36 Giatsint-B 152mm howitzer from Russian forces in # Kherson Oblast."
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"A visual to rebuff any “but Russia hasn’t been a colonial power” argument"
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If you watch the pics above, you'll see that the ammo is still stored in a carousel below the turret. I can't imagine an protective effect like western safe ammo storages offer with their blowout panels. I guess the turret will still eject, which completly destroys the vehicle. However, the crew in the frontal part of the Armata are in a seperated compartment, so there's a chance they remain unharmed (but I doub't that, those russian ammo carousel detonations are catastrophic).

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Anyways, It will be probably very hard to produce these new high tech vehicles while under sanctions. You need alot stuff Russia can't produce domestically and China won't deliver. I recently read an artice that the tank production of Uralvagonzavod broke down to a fraction which would have been possible. All they can currently do is to re-activate soviet stuff from their depots.
However you slice the cake, Personnel & Explosives in a confined space isn't a good idea all round.
This war has seen the devastating effects of what Drone Warfare can do & IMO I believe that this will be the new arms race as for the costing of tanks vs the costing of drones is a no brainer.
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Update on Kherson oblast offensive from Russian Telegram RYBAR. Looks like Ukraine went further and may have taken Kachkarivka. The bridge further south leading to Mylove has most likely been destroyed by Russians to slow the Ukrainian advance.

Red circles = bridges
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"The occupiers envy the weapons of Ukrainian Armed Forces, are afraid to stick their heads out of the trenches and consider themselves suiciders, as evidenced from this intercepted call."
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"Перегруппировка идёт согласно плану) разбитая в хлам русня.
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The regrouping is going according to plan) Rusnya, broken into the trash."
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